My keyboard (Swiftkey) gets very excited about the possibilities when I start to hyphenate words to create compounds. It accepts that they exist, but it starts trying to throw all sorts of random suggestions in for what the second word could be (and it rarely gets the right word).
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RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They also tend to believe compound words don’t exist.
loobkoob@kbin.social 9 months ago
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 months ago
When you put it like that, it sounds very endearing 😄
How are you liking it otherwise? I’m looking for something that’s neither Gboard nor the Samsung one…
WillFord27@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Used to be good. Still use it, but it seems to get worse every update
Fisk400@feddit.nu 9 months ago
When is it correct to use compound words in english? In Swedish you can do compound words for anything at will. In English “flagpole” is its own word but “dirt farmer” isn’t.
hperrin@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There is no rule. It’s just chaos. The dictionaries can’t even agree.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 months ago
True there is no consistent rule, but generally the more a phrase is used, the more often it becomes a compound word
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Welp! Better go convince some more people to become destitute agricultural workers so that the dictionary is less confusing to us Scandinavians!
Ross_audio@lemmy.world 9 months ago
All it is is whether a compound word is common enough.
It starts in speech when the words are repeated next to each other often enough they start being thought of as one word. But can’t be shortened.
If, in context, every time we said farmer we ended up saying dirt farmer. It would become compound. But in reality we’d just end up saying “farmer” when the context makes it clear. You’ll see this in writing about farming all the time, initially stating the type of farmer then just saying farmer.
Flag pole started out separately, but in some conversations it would become one object. Every time we talked about the flag pole it would be one word, flagpole. But saying just “pole” would be ambiguous. There are other poles around.
It trends towards shortness, if context allows us to drop a word altogether we will, if it doesn’t it gets compounded abbreviated.
No formal rule for this at all, but that’s the way it happens. People try to say things more efficiently without confusing meaning.
Pechente@feddit.de 9 months ago
Even more baffling, lots of keyboards don’t support this for German that has a bunch of compound words. Swiftkey (at least in the past) even split up compound words is German, thereby messing up correct grammar and replacing it with wrong grammar. It was infuriating.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
“Autocorrect,” for instance.
I’m using the Samsung one. I’ve tried a couple FOSS keyboards, but I just can’t get used to them. They always make it super hard to find the special characters or non-English letters like ñ, which is a PITA since half my family speaks Spanish.
dingus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I can’t stand the Samsung one because it doesn’t let me swear. I’m an adult, damnit. I want to be able to say what I want without my phone policing me like a child. So I use Gboard instead.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Hmmm I don’t seem to be having this problem, but I remember it happening at one time. I think I’ve manually added all the fucks and shits by now.
dingus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That’s the thing, I can’t even manually add them. I searched all over the web, but wasn’t able to find a solution. I think in older versions of the Samsung keyboard, you were able to do this. But newer phones or newer versions of the keyboard or something removed this feature. It’s dumb.
Dave@lemmy.nz 9 months ago
I’m using OpenBoard. I have many complaints, but finding ñ is not one of them.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I think I’ve tried it, but I’ll give it another chance.
Octopus1348@lemy.lol 9 months ago
I like Gboard because of its Hungarian layout, I have all the special letters like é and ö at my fingertips and I don’t have to long-press to type them.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Yes, the keyboard I use has the Spanish characters in the layout as well. In fact, it would probably make more sense just to use it if I could get used to the different layout.