Comment on Baroness Cass wants to push age for starting transitioning to 25 (NHS Adult Gender Identity Clinics)

• Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s the age we’ve decided that someone can make life changing decisions at. GP approval is standard and routine for procedures that’s beyond getting paracetamol.

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  • WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s the age we’ve decided that someone can make life changing decisions at.

    Ok, firstly discarding Gillick competence (which is legally a warzone around gender transition right now) the age that a decision is allowed to make a decision on their own healthcare in the UK is 16 not 18, unless you see trans people as inherently less capable than cos, I don’t see why you’d push the age back further specifically for gender affirming care.

    But more importantly, going through the wrong puberty isn’t life changing?

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If it’s 16, then fair enough

      But more importantly, going through the wrong puberty isn’t life changing?

      I believe whether or not the term “wrong” to describe puberty in this instance is the subject of debate, both medical and philosophical. I have even heard some claims that puberty can fix gender dysphoria (although I don’t know how scientific this is, so don’t quote me)

      If the NHS have decided not to give puberty blockers, well they have people making these decisions who are far more educated than me in this area and probably moreso than you, so I trust their judgement.

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      • WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The problem is that the decision to prevent the use of puberty blockers isn’t based on the decisions of medical experts but rather political groups more determined to erase trans people.

        The Cass review, for example has been heavily criticised for its methodological flaws.

        As someone who is both trans and with experience working in a related field of medicine it has been heartbreaking to see the NHS warped so cruelly by bigots and their agenda.

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      • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You keep being told to shut up if you’re not informed on this and then repeatedly opening your mouth to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have no idea. You’re a dangerous idiot.

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      • EatMoreMacroplastics@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I believe whether or not the term “wrong” to describe puberty in this instance is the subject of debate

        Because you are an idiot who doesn’t listen to people who actually understand the subject.

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  • EatMoreMacroplastics@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Being forced to go through the wrong puberty is also life-changing. There is no course of action that is free of permanent consequences here. Kids who request to go on hormones should get hormones, as soon as they hit puberty. The odds they will not regret it are enormously higher than the odds they will. The only reason you think one of these options, the potentially life-saving one, should be flat-out illegal and one, the potentially fatal one, should be mandatory is transphobia, as the one you want to happen automatically in 100% of all cases only harms trans kids.

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What about harming cis kids?

      And why hormones and not puberty blockers? Aren’t hormones more irreversible than the purported affect of puberty blockers?

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      • EatMoreMacroplastics@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        See, that’s the problem with you transphobes, you routinely place possible regret of one cis kid over the wellbeing of hundreds of trans kids. That’s the exact situation in the UK, you have 1 (in words: one) supposed “detransitioner” who claims she regretted treatment and the hundreds of trans kids that get denied treatment because of how her alleged mistake was weaponized and the dozens of trans kids that have killed themselves over this do not fucking matter to you. That’s pure transphobia, you prioritize one alleged cis person over hundreds of trans people because we do not matter to you.

        And why hormones and not puberty blockers?

        I don’t mind if a trans kid wants to start with blockers, most just don’t. Trans kids have a right to grow up at the same pace as cis kids, it’s not ok to force them to stay in a child’s body while everybody around them can develop just because cis people feel uncomfortable and overwhelmed with things we understand better than them.

        And even that compromise is never enough for you, it’s under attack anywhere. Why even bother arguing for that then? Why not voice what we actually demand and deserve?

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