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Waterpumpee@lemmus.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  20 is optimistic.

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  • ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The standard in my school was 40

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• Tiral@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ok, schoolsc are typically some variation of 8-3, which is 7 hours. I have no idea where you’re getting 12 hours from other than some crazy extreme outlier.

  During that 7 hours, you think they just sit in a room, and get handed shit after shit? That’s not even close to reality. That “massive” 7 hours is about 4 hours broken up into 45-1 hour increments after you have lunch/recess for an hour, a second or third recess that’s 30-1 hour, art class, music class, gym, ect.

  Beyond that, I have no idea how you think they should learn anything without sitting and practicing. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but when a lot of states went to in hime learning during covid, the kids did fucking horrible.

  You don’t want 25 kids in a class with 3 teachers? Pay more taxes to hire more people to be in the class. You don’t want higher taxes? Well your math doesn’t math. If you think teachers only work between their contract hours, you’re on fucking crack. All that decorative shit in their room? That’s out of pocket not reimbursed shit they bought. All the little snacks your kid gets is out of pocket, not reimbursed. Most teachers skip their lunch and they don’t get a penny of overtime.

  How would you feel if you had to buy nearly everything at you job you used, turn had to work 50 hours a week to get your job done right to be paid for 40 hours. Getting paid on breaks? Yeah, you’re paying yourself. Every check has an amount withheld so you can pay yourself over breaks, holidays, and summer. It’s not “free money” you’re paid.

  Then you have parents like yourself that have zero clue how anything works, how to even deal with working in a class with 25 kids. But somehow you have all the answers and are an expert? Sure, whatever you say.

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  • Waterpumpee@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    12 hours are from uni i guess. I think 9 hours happened at a-level.

    Yes you got breaks, where you move from one room to another. So much recreation.

    How would pupils learn better: focus on important topics. Dont teach about arts, music, sports. These belong to leisure time and are more fun in non-graded environments. Any institution needing those skills have their own tests in place already.

    Give them peer reviewed nationally standartized learning material for async learning. From a certain age, dont need a teacher reading the script. A video is sufficient. With a colloqium of course. Until that age, focus on enabling that self learning. Reading, writing, computer literacy. Nothing else.

    Spent 20+ years in the system. I’d call myself an expert, yes.

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    • pazzeda@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, you’re not an expert just because you went to school. This is what so many adults think, and get wrong. You’re not trained pedagogically. Didn’t you just comment above that students shouldn’t be sitting still for 6 hours? How do you think kids learn writing and reading? It’s not by playing outside. And learning about art and music is important for overall roundedness of an education. Sports should, ideally, introduce you to various different sports, and encourage you to move. Arts attempts to foster creativity, expression, and using your hands. Music has been a part of human culture for millenia. Teaching kids about music, how it works, about different instruments, different styles of music, is again part of expressing yourself as a human being. This is only one part of your classes though. Nowadays kids, as I am sure back in the day, don’t want to concentrate on just videos. Like, you don’t understand the half of being a teacher if you think you can just leave a video on and expect the kids to learn. About 75% of a teacher’s job is basically managing the classroom so that the kids don’t cause anarchy.

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      • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        About 75% of a teacher’s job is basically managing the classroom so that the kids don’t cause anarchy.

        To demonstrate this, just take a class of 5th graders and observe how the volume and behaviour of the kids changes, the second the teacher leaves the room.

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      • Waterpumpee@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’d argue pedagoges agree the current system is wrong. My own aproach to these things is anthropologic. What resembles the situation in free nature most? And a pint of logic.

        The reason we still have this medieval system, if you’d wanted to argue for that, is we want parents to work and children to be watched. Teachers are exactly. I think from a certain age we can drop this bullshit and give the children a more lax framework that also resembles actual work situation.

        Noone in work will teach you how to do things for x hours, then a test and 4 is passing. In work, anything besides 1 or 2 is a do it again. And you have to figure alot of the how tos yourself or atleast know when to ask what.

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• protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  20 only?

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  • Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I went up to 36 in high school lol

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• belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  These days you’re lucky if you have less than 30 in your class. The classrooms are still designed for 20, though

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• Ravenheart@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Especially for us neurodivergents.

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• defrostedLasagna4921@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What could work better?

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