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• chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m confused. Are you asking if killing kangaroos because they have no natural predators could be considered vegan? Yeah, probably. Are you asking what the point of veganism is since you’ve randomly decided it isn’t a coherent philosophy based on your own strawman? I can’t answer that question, it’s not based in reality. I mean, I could ask how you can talk with all that rebar in your mouth, but since you don’t have rebar in your mouth, the question doesn’t make sense, does it?

  I chose to clarify that eating the kangaroo is the non-vegan act here, not culling the population, since you’ve somehow decided that eating an animal and killing them are somehow synonymous. I hope it’s obvious that they aren’t.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are you asking what the point of veganism is since you’ve randomly decided it isn’t a coherent philosophy based on your own strawman?

    Did you even read anything I wrote? Because that’s not what I said or believe.

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why is kangaroo meat not vegan, even though the animal was killed to preserve the remaining population? Cause the animal did not consent to being killed, it did not want to be killed, and killing it caused it pain.

      Could a vegan internalize your logic and therefore consume kangaroo meat? Yeah. Does that make kangaroo meat vegan? Not even close. Hell, the usual loophole meat of oysters aren’t vegan even though lots of vegans eat them.

      Veganism isn’t a religion, and each person lives it differently as a result. Like your assertion that veganism is or should be about the consequences isn’t even a factor for everyone. Some people are vegan cause eating dead things is creepy and stealing food from babies feels wrong, and that’s a perfectly legitimate reason to be vegan.

      Also, you edited a previous comment to suggest that you only care about this for non-vegans. In which case, why do you care if it’s vegan or not? Why do you care if vegans care or not if omnis eat it?

      Also, I jumped to conclusions because I thought I was answering what you asked, but apparently I wasn’t so I needed to guess at a different interpretation of your question since you didn’t actually clarify what you meant, just accused me multiple times of not reading what you said.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t know what edit you’re talking about genuinely and I don’t know why you think I accused you of anything multiple times because I didn’t.

        So the answer to my question is “because they didn’t consent”. Okay. This could’ve been reached much more simply and without all the assumptions which you refuse any responsibility for and blame it on me for not being clear. I get that vegans deal with a lot of bad faith arguments but if you assume every argument or question is in bad faith, that’s not helping anyone.

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