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So then this all powerful God isn’t smart or powerful enough to make a universe in which suffering isn’t necessary. Seems pretty limiting for an all powerful, all knowing being.

Do you also make justifications for billionaires that destroy the world? Because you’re putting quite a bit of energy in to justifying something that is supposedly beyond comprehension. Wouldn’t the more honest answer just be “I don’t know.”

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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

this all powerful God isn’t smart or powerful

You don’t have to be that smart or that powerful for humans to worship you as a God. Humans have worshipped their richest local neighbors. They’ve worshipped big animals. They’ve worshipped rocks.

Do you also make justifications for billionaires that destroy the world?

Justify what?

I’ll blame Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg for a big new Data Center sucking up my neighborhood’s utilities.

I won’t blame them for the existence of malaria or the eccentricities of particle physics.

you’re putting quite a bit of energy in to justifying

Am I? It seems like you want a Magic Rock to blame for all your problems.

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- Fawkes@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You’re engaging dishonestly and changing the subject entirely. No comment was made on what humans worship or why, every comment was directed at a supposedly all-powerful God.
  
  You made an argument that this all-powerful God was constrained by physics. Then it cannot be an all-powerful God.
  
  That’s the argument against creationism and religions with all-powerful deities.
  
  Magic rock to blame for all my problems? I honestly have no idea what you’re getting at here. Theists blame magic for their harms. Atheists accept it as blind consequences in an uncaring universe. You’re literally assigning theistic beliefs on atheism.
  
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  - UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    You made an argument that this all-powerful God was constrained by physics.
    
    I did not make that argument
    
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    Fawkes@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Have a meaningful conversation of how an all powerful, good God can allow so much suffering. Either he isn’t good or he isn’t powerful.
    
    Evolution is driven by adversity. Organisms experience stress, seek to relieve themselves of that stress, and improve upon their function iteratively over billions of years.
    
    So is the all-powerful God constrained by physics or not? What argument, precisely, are you making? When the initial comment was to defend the belief in an all-powerful God.
    
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