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Nerdulous@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Not having problems is the bare minimum. But my point is that the reason we have such a skewed market is because despite AMD making good cards, Nvidia makes better cards. They’re more feature packed and more performant. The only thing they’re not is cheaper than AMD. Cheaper gets you some customers but as long as the goal is to eventually “upgrade” to an Nvidia card they’ll never be the market leader. People just want to play games and whatever is able to play games the best is what they’ll want. Politics be damned. AMD has had 20+ years to fight Nvidia and their own reputation but failed at nearly every turn. That’s why we’re here.

Blaming consumers for AI doesn’t truly track to me when these companies feed into each other’s profits like some kind of snake of Ouroborus. Gamers never asked for ai. Games just became another place where ai is (unfortunately).

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Damage@feddit.it ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yeah, you’re confirming that ~~gamers~~ people care more about numbers and shiny things than principles. Who cares if lighting is slightly better in a game when having that destroys your hobby?
Gamers made nVidia’s fortune and nVidia is one of the main reasons for the crypto and ai messes. It’s not the only factor but it’s one.

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- Kaligalis@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The crypto mess isn’t Nvidia’s fault. The biggest crypto coin wasn’t even mined on GPUs anymore when the cryptocalypse happened and GPUs got literally unaffordable and unobtainable for a few years. The Ethereum devs made their mining algorithm require lots of VRAM in an attempt to make their blockchain more democratic because ASIC miners would not work as well. This backfired by suddenly making gamer GPUs the sweet spot for mining Ethereum. Nvidia profited a lot. But the Ethereum devs are actually to blame. They fucked this up hard and then dragged out the algorithm switch to from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake for years. After Ethereum switched to PoS, GPU prices were recovering slowly - until the AI rush started.
  
  The RAMpocalypse literally has been caused by Sam Altman buying the (western) world’s RAM production without even being able to put it anywhere. This is basically venture capital ruining it for everyone.
  Nvidia is a big player and their intel-style market segmentation sucks. But they actually make produce GPUs. The real fuckery is venture capitalists enabling OpenAI’s CEO to ruin the tech market for everyone.
  
  Capitalism has an Epstein class problem. Without those CEOs, the RAMpocalypse hadn’t happened. Nvidia couldn’t sell GPUs which have no place to actually get installed in. The AI company financing circle jerk had been busted by the US government.
  The current mess is literally the democrats fault. They could have done proper politics instead of their abstruse post-woke shit. Trump had never won. Musk had not gutted governmental oversight (there wasn’t much, but it at least existed).
  Fucking democrats wasting their power to do irrelevant shit to nag the rednecks into voting Trump instead of doing literally anything else.
  
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- Nerdulous@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Just to be clear, I’m not arguing against your point. I’m largely agreeing with you. People do genuinely care more about enjoying their hobby than whatever principals they should be upholding to ensure it’s future. For most people the politics involved isn’t a consideration for something that’s usually an escape from reality. My goal was to explain why the status quo is the way it is and most of it does come down to whatever makes the games the prettiest. I can’t fault people for that. Everything in life shouldn’t require research and an ethics check. These kinds of issues are why we have elected officials and governing bodies and it’s their failures you should be upset at.
  
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  - Damage@feddit.it ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    My goal was to explain why the status quo is the way it is and most of it does come down to whatever makes the games the prettiest. I can’t fault people for that.
    
    You can and you should. Just blindly going through life chasing your own enjoyment at the expense of everything else is egoistical and detrimental to civil society. Egoism is what is destroying the world.
    
    Everything in life shouldn’t require research and an ethics check.
    
    Unfortunately it does, and while I agree we can’t fix everything at once, some things are easier than others.
    
    These kinds of issues are why we have elected officials and governing bodies and it’s their failures you should be upset at.
    
    Yeah, and that’s another thing where people should pay more attention, but they don’t because they care more about their immediate satisfaction, with hobbies and enjoyment, rather than long-term outlooks.
    
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    yakko@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    It’s weird to me how the conversation is all how “NVIDIA is better” but the OP is about how a mainstream NVIDIA feature cuts your performance in half?
    
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Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Blaming consumers for AI doesn’t truly track to me when these companies feed into each other’s profits like some kind of snake of Ouroborus. Gamers never asked for ai. Games just became another place where ai is (unfortunately).

But this is exactly what you get for “not caring for anything but raw performance and features”. You get features that noone asked for and especially features that’ll bind you into their ecosystem. They tried since forever. Hairfx, physx and now dlss/“ai”.

You’re right though, I might sadly add. People don’t care. 5090 is fastest? Then 5090 it’ll be.

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