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• gogonan@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I just think willfully ignoring the fact that there’s systemic pressure that coerces the lower class into the military and then saying they deserve to be starved and sent off to their deaths in pointless war is a fucking wildly dickish perspective

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  • Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Poverty draft is a myth. The USian soldiers are almost all well-off.
    All of them voluntarily sign up for the most vile activity one can do.

    Also, poverty and especially the often pointed-out desire to get higher education are not good exists to inflict poverty, torture and death upon non-white foreigners.

    Also, do you think that the countries they invade have a moral right to defend themselves and kill these monsters, or do you side with the invaders and claim that these people should live?

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    • BiCow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I may regret responding to you but here goes…Poverty draft IS a real thing and the recruiting tactics are absolutely vile. I joined the Navy after dropping out of local community college working as a busser at a local bar/restaurant living with my grandmother and mother in the same house. The recruiters for all branches of the military are definitely predatory they get quotas to meet and signing up people for high desired or high skill positions gave them extra points. I was told that if I signed up for a 6 year enlistment I would go to college at Charleston University for 2 years, be able to have a 4 year degree after my service as well as not be deployed(ended up doing 3 back to back sea duty tours). Most of the people I served with came from a mix of stories that if played out they would not have had much to offer their families. Many people I directly worked with got in with waivers for criminal offenses and admitted that they would probably have ended up in the system and literally had no other options. The coercion that is used on vulnerable people whos literally brain is still developing is not great.

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      • Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Poverty draft IS a real thing

        Ok. What share of the USian military comes from poor backgrounds?

        living with my grandmother and mother in the same house

        Same house or same apartment? If its the former, I struggle to see how you can claim to come from a poor background.

        I was told that if I signed up for a 6 year enlistment I would go to college at Charleston University for 2 years, be able to have a 4 year degree after my service

        You were told you would be at least defending the most evil polity in the world, one that is currently engaged in at least one genocide, all in exchange for a university degree?

        Many people I directly worked with got in with waivers for criminal offenses and admitted that they would probably have ended up in the system and literally had no other options.

        So, you are claiming that they wouldn’t even be able to stay in prison?

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        Do you agree that the rest of the world has a moral right to defend itself against such people, including by killing them, or do you think that these people take priority and should be allowed to contribute to invasions, genocide, etc.?

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