I’m just trying to understand how to relate to the post in any way. I just don’t understand how. I’d like to understand what your thoughts are while posting this. That’s all. 🤷♂️ I don’t mean any harm.
This has happened a few times as well on this side. An honest question of trying to understand, and then get told that’s doing “sea lioning” which is something that was pointed out a day or two ago. Learn something new every day.
But it makes one sad if you do want to learn, to really understand better, without harm meant or judgement, and NOT every time, but most of the time, being called a (insert a sensitive topic here)-ophobe.
There are things that even wikipedia doesn’t explain properly, so one has to sometimes ask, especially if it’s really something you either don’t understand or get at all. Like on this side it’s literally not knowing any better, that got the trouble going, not harmful intent.
There are still questions about queer / femboy / trans that are a mystery, but makes one too scared of offending. And this is written with 100% sincerity. This is not a blaming game or finger pointing exercise.
And imagine it’s someone who actually is interested or still wanting to come out and asking sincere questions, if someone attacks you, it would put you off for life, nevermind being hurt by a group / race / idea that you aspire or look up to. :-(
The problem isn’t that they’re asking a question! I do not think it’s wrong to want to understand things. In this case however the meaning is what it says on the tin. I’m not trying to be coy or disrespectful to those who ask questions.
It’s a vibe, some people will feel it and others won’t. Do not be afraid of asking questions. I’m just personally vibing with the picture. I’m a cis straight man who thinks “dressing as a pink rabbit girl in your home” is relatable. Not because I do it, mind you.
Sorry, this wasn’t aimed at you personally, it was a response to what the person said regarding asking an honest question and feeling like they offended someone.
Apologies again, should’ve maybe mentioned that in the comments.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, no harm was meant. :-(
From what I can tell it’s possible that the OP may have some trauma or at the very least past negative experiences with egg culture. I can neither confirm nor deny this though as I’m not the OP, I am basing it off my own negative experiences with egg culture.
For those not in the know egg culture is the phenomenon around Egg_irl, it’s the idea that people are transgender without knowing it, or are in denial. The problematic part is that it also targets people who are Gender Non-Conforming (GNC) because it heavily utilizes gender stereotypes.
If that is the case they might have a completely valid reason for why they posted it or are vibing with it and are not sharing it because they feel like people are going to call them an egg or harass them again, but they wanted to share it because they thought other people might enjoy it.
Here’s a sample of what Egg culture harassment looks like by the way, just to give an idea for people who haven’t experienced it (count yourselves lucky), fair warning, it’s unpleasant.
Toxic Egg culture, Enbyphobia, probably is harassment.
“I’m saying you’re an Egg because you seem to have an interest in dressing as something other than your AGAB, you’re obviously not Cisgender. People can be either Male or Female and you’re clearly not male, because males don’t enjoy things like that if you keep lying to yourself you’ll never be happy”
I could understand why the op might be a bit more on edge then they otherwise would be if they experienced egging like this.
I think mostly it’s the idea that people* who break gender stereotypes (or are thought to break gender stereotypes) are trans, I don’t think it necessarily implies that everyone is trans, I’ve seen people who claim that and act like it but for the most part it’s based on lack of adherence to gender stereotypes.
(*Most of the times this doesn’t include women who dress in a masculine way, tomboys getting egged definitely does happen, but it’s not as common since women dressing masc has been established as a normal thing.)
victorz@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You seem like you’re getting offended.
I’m just trying to understand how to relate to the post in any way. I just don’t understand how. I’d like to understand what your thoughts are while posting this. That’s all. 🤷♂️ I don’t mean any harm.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m defintely not offended in any way, shape or form. Sometimes things just happen, y’know?
victorz@lemmy.world 9 months ago
And… What happened?
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Shitposting
PlasticPigeon@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This has happened a few times as well on this side. An honest question of trying to understand, and then get told that’s doing “sea lioning” which is something that was pointed out a day or two ago. Learn something new every day.
But it makes one sad if you do want to learn, to really understand better, without harm meant or judgement, and NOT every time, but most of the time, being called a (insert a sensitive topic here)-ophobe.
There are things that even wikipedia doesn’t explain properly, so one has to sometimes ask, especially if it’s really something you either don’t understand or get at all. Like on this side it’s literally not knowing any better, that got the trouble going, not harmful intent.
There are still questions about queer / femboy / trans that are a mystery, but makes one too scared of offending. And this is written with 100% sincerity. This is not a blaming game or finger pointing exercise.
And imagine it’s someone who actually is interested or still wanting to come out and asking sincere questions, if someone attacks you, it would put you off for life, nevermind being hurt by a group / race / idea that you aspire or look up to. :-(
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The problem isn’t that they’re asking a question! I do not think it’s wrong to want to understand things. In this case however the meaning is what it says on the tin. I’m not trying to be coy or disrespectful to those who ask questions.
It’s a vibe, some people will feel it and others won’t. Do not be afraid of asking questions. I’m just personally vibing with the picture. I’m a cis straight man who thinks “dressing as a pink rabbit girl in your home” is relatable. Not because I do it, mind you.
PlasticPigeon@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Sorry, this wasn’t aimed at you personally, it was a response to what the person said regarding asking an honest question and feeling like they offended someone.
Apologies again, should’ve maybe mentioned that in the comments.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, no harm was meant. :-(
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 9 months ago
From what I can tell it’s possible that the OP may have some trauma or at the very least past negative experiences with egg culture. I can neither confirm nor deny this though as I’m not the OP, I am basing it off my own negative experiences with egg culture.
For those not in the know egg culture is the phenomenon around Egg_irl, it’s the idea that people are transgender without knowing it, or are in denial. The problematic part is that it also targets people who are Gender Non-Conforming (GNC) because it heavily utilizes gender stereotypes.
If that is the case they might have a completely valid reason for why they posted it or are vibing with it and are not sharing it because they feel like people are going to call them an egg or harass them again, but they wanted to share it because they thought other people might enjoy it.
Here’s a sample of what Egg culture harassment looks like by the way, just to give an idea for people who haven’t experienced it (count yourselves lucky), fair warning, it’s unpleasant.
Toxic Egg culture, Enbyphobia, probably is harassment.
“I’m saying you’re an Egg because you seem to have an interest in dressing as something other than your AGAB, you’re obviously not Cisgender. People can be either Male or Female and you’re clearly not male, because males don’t enjoy things like that if you keep lying to yourself you’ll never be happy”
I could understand why the op might be a bit more on edge then they otherwise would be if they experienced egging like this.
victorz@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Interesting. So the theory is that all humans are trans? Is that correct?
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I think mostly it’s the idea that people* who break gender stereotypes (or are thought to break gender stereotypes) are trans, I don’t think it necessarily implies that everyone is trans, I’ve seen people who claim that and act like it but for the most part it’s based on lack of adherence to gender stereotypes.
(*Most of the times this doesn’t include women who dress in a masculine way, tomboys getting egged definitely does happen, but it’s not as common since women dressing masc has been established as a normal thing.)