Lol, council/anarchist communism would be great too. Market socialism as well.
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Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 days agoI’m referring to something I read last month, iirc, I saw that the magats were planning on attacking their opponents with saying their policies are “communism” because polls have shown that Americans aren’t really alarmed by them saying “socialism” anymore.
It’s really nice hearing that though, it’s showing that more and more people are getting more open-minded to listening to an alternative to the cesspit of capitalism
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
But democratic socialism is a mode of governance, meanwhile capitalism is a mode of economics. You can have both at the same time, so this (popular) take is still as confusing for me as it’s always been.
Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
Capitalism sucks as an economic system, what’s confusing about that? I didn’t say it was a mode of governance but it is something that is very much apart of our daily lives. Although I don’t think you’re commenting in sincerity.
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
I asked a basic question. I’m would identify as socialist. I’m definitely being sincere. Let me try to be more clear using references.
You claim socialism is an alternative to capitalism, did I catch that right?
Again, socialism is a mode of governance. Capitalism is a mode of economics. You can have both. They are not alternatives in my view.
How is that supposedly asking a question in bad faith? That comes across like a priest telling me I can’t ask why god let my mom die of cancer.
save_the_humans@leminal.space 4 days ago
Socialism is when the means of production and distribution of goods or services are owned collectively or by a centralized government. I think either would be better than capitalism, but youre probably only thinking of the latter. Collective and government control can also take different forms.
Parks, libraries, public schools, fire departments, postal service, public infrastructure, public transportation, social security, etc are centralized government controlled socialist ideas “owned” by the people. Cooperatives are independent, stateless market socialism, owned by its members/workers and democratically controlled. I think its pretty easy to see how cooperatives are a direct alternative to capitalism and involve the economy and markets, but there’s more a centralized government can do too. Namely nationalization of industries like oil/gas, railways, airlines, telecommunications, electric power, media, banks, housing etc. Which all also involve the economy and can be democratically controlled.
Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
I explained perfectly fine what I meant