Comment on Umm I think I'll just delete you instead
PotjiePig@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So we want free apps that offer everything and don’t take your data or advertise. It must also have constant security apps and a fleet of developers keeping it running. Good Luck finding that unicorn.
I actually like this development. I’d much rather pay for a service with money over my privacy.
Signal uses donations to keep running. That’s one of the reasons why they don’t need to do this kind of crap. Kinda like Firefox.
It’s sad to see that slowly but surely the Internet gets divided into the more and more useless giant sector and the free and open sector, which just doesn’t get the attention it needs to be attractive enough for most to switch over. And then there’s also this weird shadow area where I often hear those pirate chanties from…
Firefox wants to rely on donations but in reality 90% of their funding comes from an advertising company.
Firefox doesn’t even accept donations. Mozilla Foundation does, which is a related nonprofit, but it crucially does not fund any firefox development and legally cannot do so.
What, related nonprofit that can not legally fund Firefox development? What are you talking about? It’s literally developed by them.
Mozilla Firefox, or simply Firefox, is a free and open-source web browser developed by the Mozilla Foundation and its subsidiary, the Mozilla Corporation.
Damn, I didn’t know that. Now I’m sad.
Talk to anyone who works for a nonprofit. It’s really hard to find enough donors sometimes. You end up relying on a few really rich people because most of the community can only donate a couple bucks.
If every Firefox user donated $4 per year they’d be a billion dollar company and wouldn’t need Google’s deal
Google they mean
And almost no firefox user wants to admit that, among the other things Firefox is flawed for. But, “IT’S NOT GOOGLE” is their only rationale.
Not being chromium based is quite a big deal, however.
Sounds like the best open source projects out there. How bout we use our tax money to fund great free software for everybody?
People like you are really good for my business and I love it. Thank you🥰
cloaker@kbin.social 11 months ago
Signal literally exists. Free.
FoxBJK@midwest.social 11 months ago
It’s only free because they’re trusting users to donate. That method of generating income for their developers could stop working at any time. Lots of FLOSS projects struggle to find kosher funding.
jkure2@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Come on dog this is literally just ‘yeah well what if we imagine a hypothetical world where MY argument is right, how about that?’
woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No, they sell their technology to Meta and Microsoft. WhatApp’s encrypted protocol that was rolled out several years ago is Signal’s. That’s also why Signal will never match all features of those messengers. They cannot drive WhatsApp and such out of business because that would mean Signal is out of business.
afunkysongaday@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No. Everyone can use Signal technology for free in their own products. They are not selling it to anyone. Yes, some time ago moxie helped to integrate their encryption algorithm in WhatsApp and that’s that. Very likely that he / the foundation got paid for that service, but it’s not like Signal is funded by selling their technology to anyone. And for sure it’s not like they can’t match WhatsApp features because then WhatsApp would go down the river and they run out of funding…
I don’t know what to say but stuff like this makes me kinda angry. You read about moxie helping implement their encryption in WhatsApp at one point, and then came up with this story that Signal is somehow mainly funded by meta and Microsoft and can’t compete with their products because it would put ms and meta out of business and endanger their own funding this way. Like, please don’t make up stories like that, OK? It’s not a nice thing to do.
If you are really interested here are some actual facts on the matter:
Source: wiki. Took me five seconds to google that. Again please don’t spread made up stories, thanks.
noodle@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Large open source projects like Signal don’t really rely on individual donations, but instead survive off wealthy supporters or sponsors.
supermarkus@feddit.de 11 months ago
Signal has fewer features than non-premium Telegram. Both are open source, neither can be used with alternative servers (unlike Matrix).
cloaker@kbin.social 11 months ago
Signal is peer to peer no?
tebro@lemmy.tebro.fi 11 months ago
It is not