Comment on Climate Summit
FatherPeanut@pawb.social 1 week agoQuite a lotta opinions people have on this comment chain, lemme throw mine in too while the gettin’ is good!
I’ve come to interpret a lot of these modern problems and solutions as questions of capital. To sound like a broken record, having as highly capitalist of an economic system as we do creates a lot of these incentives, so much so that I feel the question itself isn’t necessarily a question of climate policy, but rather a question of our relationship between company and government. I’ll dive further if asked, but I feel most of y’all on this platform have seen variations of this argument enough to be able to auto-complete it in your heads.
nednobbins@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
I’m curious why you see my comment as a defense of shareholders?
The beneficiaries of faster transportation, abundant food, and vast material wealth are the consumers. The shareholders only benefit indirectly in that they can take their money and consume goods and services that others have produced.
That’s a tradeoff that happens no matter what economic system we choose. I’m also not even suggesting that we pull back on addressing climate change; I’m saying that this is an ineffective way to advocate for it.
treesapx@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Youre presupposing that were losing something by cleaning up the environment. As if we cant invest in a cleaner environment the same way we spent money of the other things that made the pollution. Its absolutely possible to have all these things.
The point is that we are ALREADY paying more for living in a polluted world than a clean one. Pollution causes so many widespread health problems that we’d make that money back on healthcare costs alone.
Thats what makes this environment discussion so nonsensical. We dont even have to address climate change to get a return on our investment in cleaning up the world.
FatherPeanut@pawb.social 1 week ago
I didn’t, I just wanted to throw my thoughts out.