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Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoWhat kinks are okay and what aren’t? I personally am strongly againt lolicon drawings of any kind, to the point I think it should be illegal material. I don’t view that as “kink” I view it as genuine evil. I’m also not personally into anything non human. That said, I think there is a pretty large distinction between a furry drawing two furries fucking and someone drawing a German shepard fucking a lady. The latter maybe could even be classed in the same realm as lolicon. The former though, thats just consenting adults with extra imagination. I’m not seeing the throughline you are between furries and pedophiles. So, in your estimation, what’s okay/Kink and whats not?
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t really have a list of sexual kinks I’m a fan of ant not a fan of. Anything forcibly involving non-consenting participants, whether they’re aware of that fact or not, I definitely see as being wrong.
There are over 8 billion people in the world with tens of thousands of combinations of cultures, ethnicities, religions, regional histories, and socioeconomic backgrounds. We’re not all going to agree on the morality of anything. Too many people online have decided to see simple honesty about that from people who feel differently about things than they go as hatred.
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
So you are a committed vegan, right? Since imposing confinement, forced impregnation and slaughter on unconsenting animals in real life is clearly a lot worse than wanting to fuck them in a fantasy.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Eating meat is normal human behavior. Fantasizing about fucking nonhuman animals is not.
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
That’s a real sheep take. If a lot of people do it then it’s normal human behaviour. If you wanna apply some prescriptive values to that based on some moral ideas you have and say that common behaviour is wrong you’re gonna need to be consistent about the consequences. If you’re justifying your idea of its wrongness in terms of sentience and consent you can’t just then drop that for the thing that you like to do. Either you’ve got values or you don’t.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Furries don’t engage in non consensual acts by and large. It feels like this is just something you don’t connect with so it makes you uncomfortable. Because you’re uncomfortable you’re railing against it extra hard. Claiming people just see what your saying as hatered seems reasonable. You’re the one connecting consenting adults participating in innocuous behavior with actual pedophilia. It’s definitely reasonable to push against that.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You asked “in your estimation, what’s okay/Kink and whats not?” right up there. I was answering that question. I never connected furries to it at all.
I’m not railing against it. It doesn’t make me uncomfortable. It’s at odds with my values and morals. It seems sort of like seeing people eat dog meat or something. A sexual desire for imaginary beings based on animals is weird as all hell to me. I’m not the one who chose to use animals. They did. When someone is a fan of sexualized images of vaguely human shaped animals that connects itself to zoophilia, it doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to do that.
There’s a big difference between giving your honest opinion on a thing and actively hating a thing. And a difference again between that and being intolerant and falling to violence against those who don’t see the world and the things in it in the same light that you do.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The only thing you were able to list not being okay with was non consensual acts. I specifically asked the question to understand what about furries is against your moral compass. From what you’re saying its just that you think its weird. Which is fine, but a different animal from pedophilia/zoophilia completely. It being weird/not your thing makes sense, it being against your morals/values doesn’t. Based on what you’ve said. Again I really want to understand how you’re connecting it to pedophilia/lolicon. Also, I don’t understand what you’re trying to explain in that last paragraph at all.