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realitista@lemmus.org 5 hours agoYou could make the same argument for capitalism. True capitalism would require complete abolishment of governments. There is a reason neither have happened, because in order to implement either in a functioning way, you need other elements. Capitalism without some socialist elements will end up killing most of the citizenry.
The implementation of pure communism creates such a massive bureaucracy and lack of opportunities for people who want power over others, that all the psychopaths get funneled into the top of the government where they start to extract the full wealth of the society into projects of folly.
The only solution anyone has found is for the 2 to keep each other in balance. This is what happens in successful societies. Anything too far in either direction and the working class is the first to suffer.
RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip 3 hours ago
Most capitalists, new and old, don’t want to abolish goverments as they deem it a necessary part of capitalism, governments existing are in no way contradictory to capitalism in any way that capitalism isn’t contradictory to itself. Manchester capitalism was mostly “pure” capitalism and in fact many people died, at such a rate that it became uneconomic to continue as there wouldn’t have been any workers left. Welfare isn’t socialist as socialism is the abolishment of capitalism, while public welfare is intended to maintain the capitalist way of production. “Pure” communism does not have anything to do with the USSR or whatever, as communism, opposed to capitalism, does want to and has as necessary part the abolishment of goverment/the state, so you’re second paragraph could only make sense regarding socialism.