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Honestly, this is such a fucking privileged take that it hurts. How do you expect people to get to work? I cannot bike 25 miles to work in 107F heat. I will literally die. I fully support making cities completely walkable, and making public transportation make more sense. I also can see that tons of GOOD people only own cars because they have to. Cyclists, however, always seem to have a stick up their ass while also unapologetically breaking every road rule as they cry about car people. I think at least half of the times I’ve collided with something while skateboarding, its been a bicycle. I dont automatically assume that every cyclist is a bad person, even though my anecdotal evidence seems to support it.

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DudleyMason@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

this is such a fucking privileged take that it hurts.

From where I’m sitting the privilege belongs to the people making zero changes to their daily lives in response to climate change. Why the fuck do think it’s ok to live 25 miles from work? Why not move? Bcs it would be inconvenient, got it.

People should not live in places where a car is required. Unless they are doing jobs that have to be done outside of the city. You wanna live like a modern hermit? Ok, but you need to get a job working on a farm, in a mine, or at a logging camp.

Otherwise, move your ass to a denser area with good transit or stop pretending that anything but selfishness and a desire to avoid inconvenience motivated you to stay in suburbia.

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- Goforce5@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I drive 25 miles to work because I cant afford to move closer. Closer would mean property values skyrocketing and quadrupled rent. I have a very specialized skill set and these jobs do not exist everywhere, but unfortunately I’m also not making six figures. There is also basically no public transit in my state, city or not. Hard to believe if all you’ve known is big city privilege, but there’s a whole world of people like me and your utopian fantasy cant work for us unless someone foots the bill.
  
  Maybe instead of attacking people who drive cars, you could focus that energy on the giant corporate polluters who are the ACTUAL cause of our climate crisis and show absolutely no signs of letting up. I think youd be surprised to learn that you and I probably agree on what needs to be done, and yet here you are angry at me for some bullshit that makes no difference in the bigger picture.
  
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  - DudleyMason@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    There is also basically no public transit in my state, city or not.
    
    And yet you still choose to live there. That’s the problem.
    
    Hard to believe if all you’ve known is big city privilege,
    
    And as hard as it is to believe with terminal carbrain, I grew up in the suburbs and lived for a while in rural Appalachia before moving to “the big city”. And it was a sacrifice to move here, it sucked for a few years. But now I don’t have to destroy the environment to get to and from work. You should try it. When nobody is willing to stay and pay taxes in car dependent shit holes, the assholes who run them will start “footing the bill” for decent transit infrastructure. Til then, staying just means you value your convenience over a habitable planet just like every other carhole on Earth.
    
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- mika_mika@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Good citizens don’t have such absolutist takes like this. I hope you see how this attitude is just as dumbed as someone who thinks cars are the only solution.
  
  “People should just move.” 🤯🤯
  
  My guy, the people I know that actually cycle, and are about that life, are either privileged enough to exist in a neighborhood that has enough tax funds to bother with any cycling infrastructure (see: privilege, biking is more convenient in these areas) or are so beaten down by the system they cannot purchase a vehicle, maintenance, insurance, and biking is their only option.
  
  You are not only shifting the responsibility of climate change from the uber wealthy to the average citizen trying to not starve themselves or their families in this capitalist hellscape (that doesn’t disappear by the good feels of well meaning people), but are detached from reality while doing so.
  
  I’m guessing you’re not part of any active revolution against your state to change things because it’s inconvenient and bitching about normal people gives you some comfort that you’re actually doing something… but even though the odds are against you, I recommend you go try and change the world from the top with those grandiose ideals, those slim odds are higher than whatever it is you’re doing.
  
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  - DudleyMason@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    I hope you see how this attitude is just as dumbed as someone who thinks cars are the only solution.
    
    Nope. Bcs at worst I’m annoying some people who’ve embraced ecocidal narcissism. Carbraims are people who are embracing ecocidal narcissism. If you don’t see the difference there, I don’t think there’s much hope for you.
    
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