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CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 days agoSure, but you’re picking China for its success in poverty reduction and ignoring it’s authoritarian and oppressive policies. The USSR collapsed financially, so it doesn’t make a good example of anything.
No system is perfect and I’m surely not saying capitalism is. They all require constant adjustment and governments that prioritize the well being of the people. This always fails because humans are assholes regardless of the governmental system.
SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What is your metric for “authoritarian and oppressive”? I lean towards incarceration rate and judicial+extrajudicial deaths per capita. Now do the China(authoritarian communist) vs USA(freedomian capitalist) comparison.
That’s what we call cherry-picking. Post-USSR Russia has a significantly higher quality of life than pre-USSR even after the “financial collapse”. I strongly encourage your to read into Mikhail Gorbachev and how his move toward democratic socialism led to the “financial collapse” and the kleptocracy that began with Boris Yeltsin.
So why do you insist on rewarding the absolute WORST of ‘human nature’?!
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I don’t. I want to reward innovation. And avoid some again. Human nature gets in the way in all systems.
SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What is your metric for “innovation”? How much you wanna bet that as soon as you define it and do a real comparison your thesis falls apart again?
Your belief on “quality of life” is vapid bullshit.
Your belief on “oppressive and authoritarian” is vapid bullshit.
Do you have some other thought terminating cliche else that you’re going to try and deflect with?
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You sou d very sure of yourself, and yet also insecure with your harshness. It’s almost like you have an attachment to your desired logical outcome, but you can’t actually face any facts that explore other possibilities. I wish you the best and I’m sure you mean well, but maybe try to be a bit more open minded? Proof of innovation is all the innovation that the western capitalist countries have achieved. Much of it is irrelevant, but such is the way of science and technology - it’s a trial and error process. China has specifically copied the US capitalist model to create technological innovation. But I’m guessing you’ll just insult me for pointing such things out.