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Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

You’ve purposely tried to redirect the topic to avoid the very clear fact that the conspiracy theory claim you made is based on them doing things that you think they should be doing.

You just spoke about the current conflict as worse than what was happening previously, the article you used up back up your conspiracy theory that Israel created Hamas is based on the argument they should have had a similar reaction sooner and that it should be more extreme.

You say genocide which I presume you count as starting before this current conflict and is based on the flimsy arguement they don’t let enough aid though, etc but you also want to use the flimsy arguement that they’re letting too much aid through which is propping up a terrorist organisation.

The reality that you don’t rely know or care about what you’re talking about is very clear, you’re throwing around buzzwords and meme talking points you haven’t even thought about and have no idea of how they relate to the wider situation. You’ve decided your team thinks Israel is bad and you’re on a quest to amplify that because you feel it will make you look like a passionate and intellectual person - unfortunately these hamfisted and empty arguments you’re making just make you look like a gullible blowhard.

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WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The genocide that Israel is talking about pretty transparently as they indiscriminately bomb the shit out of civilians is a conspiracy - you got it, Jitler.

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- Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  So your original claim? You’ve forgotten about that and your not going to respond to anything I’ve said but will continue to throw out emotive but meaningless statements?
  
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  - WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Maybe you meant the funding Hamas piece - here’s Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s telling a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat.
    
    The Israeli government gave me a budget, and the military government gives to the mosques.”
    
    Unsurprisingly, Arafat also referred to Hamas as
    
    A creature of Israel
    
    Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades speaking to the WSJ…
    
    Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation
    
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  - WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That Israel is committing a genocide? Here’s a parade of their political leaders saying as much…
    
    Prime Minister Netanyahu
    
    They (Israel/IDF) are committed to completely eliminating this evil from the world,”
    
    and
    
    You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.
    
    and
    
    I don’t call them human animals because that would be insulting to animals
    
    “Defence” minister Galant
    
    We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly
    
    Kallner…
    
    Nakba to the enemy now! This day is our Pearl Harbour. We will still learn the lessons. Right now, one goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 48. A Nakba in Gaza and a Nakba for anyone who dares to join!
    
    Atbaryan…
    
    erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth. Gaza needs to be wiped out.
    
    Halevi…
    
    goals for this victory. One, there is no more Muslim land in the land of Israel. After we make it the land of Israel, Gaza should be left as a monument, like Sodom.”
    
    In case you don’t remember your Torah, here’s a refresher on the Amalekites… I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.
    
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