Comment on Boy George pulled from West End performance run after releasing pro-Israel song
Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 3 days ago
I dont know the song but picking a side in that matter seems to come with bad consequences. This has been like that for decades already.
Both sides handle things wrong but since oct 7 i kind of understand israel. Flotilla activists et. al completely forget that and that hamas was iran financed which literally swore to make jews extinct.
I think if you read up on how Israel have treated Palestinian’s over the past few decades you will see that one side is clearly abusing their position of power, and treating Palestinians as second rate citizens.
I don’t even know where to begin but how about Israeli snipers shooting unarmed civilians, including children: factually.co/…/israeli-snipers-shooting-children-…
Plus there is an international arrest warrant for Netanyahu for war crimes
Except
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas
“The Israeli government has been involved in assisting or empowering the Palestinian political and military organization Hamas at various points in its history.[a] This support continued during and in spite of active military hostilities between the two sides.”
This is quite often how it always goes. You feed and infiltrate a radical organization and then you press the “release” button when you need a “casus belli”.
What do you think why did they support hamas? Who was the strongest political force in palestine? How was that force’s stance toward israel?
What do you think why did they support hamas?
I have exactly written the answer to this at the end. The answer to your other two questions are in the link. Example; according to the article Israel kept supporting Hamas even when there were hostilities between them.
Seriously, choke on a dick.
Is that a homophobe insult now?
Hamas was also financed by Israel in order to sink the efforts of the PLO. The secular PLO looked like it might actually get some peaceful recognition of statehood and Israel knew a violent Islamist leadership would torpedo that. Israel has been fighting against Palestinian statehood, limiting movement of Palestinians, controlling resources, supporting “settler” bandits that colonize and kill Palestinians, etc.
Israel has been slowly taking over Palestinian land and killing their people for decades. The Palestinians can’t vote in Israeli elections. Their statehood has been blocked by Israel so they have limited diplomatic solutions. What peaceful option do you propose they should have done?
The Oct 7 attacks killed about 1200 Israeli civilians and soldiers. In response, Israel has killed 1200 Hamas militants and 82,000 civilians, wounded a further 174,000, blocked humanitarian aid, leveled apartments, hospitals, schools, etc. Acting like both sides are bad when one is fighting for survival, and the other is committing a genocide is just arguing in support of genocide. If you’re somehow still ignorant on this topic, I suggest you do some more digging into the history of Israel and Palestine. If you have learned about it and still support Israel then go fuck yourself.
peaceful option Acknoledge the right of israel instead of sending rockets. Stop voting religious fanatics in.
fighting for survival 1951: 0.9m population 2026: 5.6m population
This amount of population is unsustainable on the land. They could only boom like this due to foreign aid. They have barely any economy themselves.
82k civillians It’s a guerilla war with undeclared combatants. Wiki acknoledges abt 80k without declaring them civillian. Anyhow 1200 hamas millitants is obviously bs. Also hamas using that war style only works with the help of civillians. They are complicit to some extend.
go fuck yourself You know why everyone is fighting for this little pile of dirt? Religion. They all think their religion started there and want to claim the mountain theirs. There’s alot of money in the pot to make you think their side is correct and you actually being so zealot about it to insult people so randomly shows.
I think the floatilla activists take more umbrage with the deliberate killing of Palestinian children, doctors, reporters, and anyone who might be intelligensia. Plus the starvation and massive overwhelming firepower - it’s not that they forget, it’s that Hamas being Iran backed and talking about making Jews extinct isn’t as pressing an issue as Israel actually making Palestinians extinct.
Maybe im ignorant but the “river to the sea” chanters seem not to care about honorable matters. I simply connected these. Going into whataboutism i don’t hear strong voices from that kind of people about afghanistan or sudan.
I think it feels fake or overrepresented in the public. Maybe some of these activists are sponsored to bring the matter into the public and parroting the propaganda. This could be even indirectly without their knowledge.
And Bibi proclaimed from the river to the sea, or is it ok when he says it?
No it is not. Isnt he wanted by the icc?
Most people don’t pay a huge amount of attention to things that aren’t in the top few news items.
Sadly, Sudan, Somalia, Mali, Myanmar, and even Afghanistan and Syria and others are not. So most people do know or think much on them.
That said, the leftist folks I know who were “River to the Sea"ing back in 2016 are also the people who talk about those other countries.
They tend not to have social media channels, let alone newspapers or 24 hour news channels though.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
You should educate yourself more on the subject