Comment on Lemmy or Piefed?
Allero@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Lemmy
Technically: less often updated, may have less of the shiny features. Some see it as positive: Lemmy stays out of the user’s way.
Ideologically: devs are far-left, but the project itself is neutral. Wherever you find yourself politically, you’ll find a place.
Overall: Lemmy is a good option if you want to see the “raw” Threadiverse. Less bells and whistles, no content or moderational filters pushed on the user aside from what instance admins and users themselves decide.
PieFed
Technically: fast-paced development, “move fast and break stuff”, highly experimental, but feature-rich.
Ideologically: American liberal/moderate, enforced. All PieFed instances filter out “radical” left- or right-wing content (see no-qanon PieFed list), all user filters come on top of this list instead of replacing it. It also suffers from the backlash on some of the decisions made, such as vote throttling.
Overall: PieFed is a shiny and new, fast-paced, but also opinionated and controversial project. Whether it’s going to be a “peace of mind” or “power tripping dev hellscape” software is only for you to experience.
Potential compromise: PyLova
PyLova is a fork of PieFed designed specifically to cut out opinionated pieces while keeping the technology.
However, it’s only currently present on quokk.au, which is itself opinionated (anarchist, far left).
ride@piefed.social 5 hours ago
I don’t get the opinionated part; aren’t we all? Yes, some project theirs more onto others than the rest. Personally, I see myself as humanly common-sense moderate. I avoid stupid people and situations as I mature. I used to me a political hot-head, which meant I cheered certain people I wouldn’t touch with a pole these days.
Allero@lemmy.today 5 minutes ago
It is one thing to hold an opinion; it is another to limit which opinions others can see.
Lemmy devs hold a very radical and strong opinion, but they don’t enforce it on anybody else. This fosters a healthy and open discussion and political development. You can have any instances posting whatever.
PieFed dev enforces certain optics by limiting the sources viewable through it, and some of the choices raises eyebrows in a major way. For example, did you know PieFed bans WikiLeaks? No matter the political stance, you’d rather be able to cite that. This open censorship limits political discussion and serves to reinforce Rimu’s political line instead of going for an honest intellectual exchange.
We have plenty of spaces trying to shape people’s opinion. Fediverse is the direct response to this threat among many. Why would we want to turn Threadiverse into this again?
Again, with that said, I tried to give a more neutral outline. Objectively, Lemmy the software is politically neutral, while PieFed is not. If you share the values baked into PieFed, you may end up enjoying this experience. But overall, this is often seen as problematic around these parts.