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wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Literally every country on the planet is xenophobic, people only make a big deal out of it when it’s a western or western-aligned country.

The entire idea of inclusivity, tolerance, and multiculturalism is primarily a western idea sprung from western humanist values and honestly only even taken seriously in secular democracies which tend to be aligned with the west.

And then people act like the west and west-aligned countries are so depraved for not perfectly living up to those values, when hardly any other nation even tries or has any desire to.

It’s honestly kind of amusing once you stop giving a shit.

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Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I told people in North Iraq I am from Turkey, and despite my government fucking genociding their population and oppressing them for years, these people were welcoming. Travel more, I guess?

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- Aqarius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This, tbh. The less you expect your own government to cater to your preferences, the less you tend to judge foreigners by their nation’s foreign policy.
  
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- buran@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They seem like lovely people. :>
  
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Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This is such an ignorant take. Multiculturalism is actually the norm in most of the world throughout history, and the rare instances of isolationism are more often a result of geography than culture. The current xenophobic and nationalist state of the world is an aberration resulting from rampant and ongoing colonialism in the past few centuries. Many nations that exist today encompass regions that were far more multicultural and politically complex prior to their colonization by Europeans.

As for the West, our current secular humanist values are the result of the enlightenment period in which European colonizers appropriated and synthesized the ideas of colonized peoples around the world. The reason we don’t live up to them is because we stubbornly refuse to reckon with our colonialist past and present, such that we just go on living with the contradiction to the detriment of the world and ourselves.

It’s honestly kind of amusing once you stop giving a shit.

Not caring doesn’t make you cool, it just makes you another cynical asshole among many. IMO the world could do with less cynical assholes.

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- wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s hard not to be cynical in this world.
  
  And you think everyone before western colonization was enlightened and multicultural? Sure their political regions were more complex, but in-groups and out-groups have existed in every region since at least the dawn of civilization, and those in-groups were typically defined by a range of factors including but not limited to culture, language, ancestry (and by extension, ethnicity), and religion.
  
  You must have been sleeping through World History class if you think everything was kumbaya all around the world until the Europeans showed up…
  
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  - Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I said that multiculturalism was the norm, not that everyone was holding hands and singing kumbaya. I also am not saying that colonialism is new or unique to Europeans, it just so happens that European nations are the most recent colonial powers and we happen to be living in the historical period immediately following their rise to hegemony. Obviously conflict and colonialism existed prior to European colonization, but it has never before had the global reach and dominance that European nations achieved. The fact remains that prior to colonization by Europeans, many regions around the world were more diverse and politically complex (i.e. multiple cultural, religious, and organizational paradigms existed parallel to and in conversation with one another). Though there was conflict, it was more local and restrained with different groups finding ways to coexist even if the relationship was tenuous. It’s impossible to deny the profound impact of Europe’s global conquest on the political environment in which we all currently live.
    
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