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benderbeerman@lemmy.world 20 hours agoWow, you have it hard in IT i guess. Maybe you should have looked into being a mechanic.
You don’t need a degree to get jobs as a mechanic, so no formal education necessary. You don’t have to worry about jobs being hard to find because basically everything that moves has bearings that need to be changed. You don’t need to worry about contract work because there are substantial amounts of mechanic jobs that pay hourly and offer tons of overtime.
I’m not sure why it’s so offensive to you that plenty of people don’t have the experience you heard about from “every mechanic you met.”
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
the average mechanic wage is 50K a year.
that’s not a livable wage unless you live in bumfucksville parts of the USA.
benderbeerman@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Wow, for someone so educated, you sure make a lot of odd assumptions.
Perhaps I am more educated than you assume, even if a formal education is not required for my job.
Also, I’m gonna make an assumption now about your education, based on things you’ve said here… someone as condescendingly smart as yourself and using averages to discuss things like this has certainly taken at least some statistics classes and understands what a “standard deviation” is… and how that might be affected by extremely low paying jobs in one sector, even if those are not the most prominent paying jobs or abundant positions in that sector.
I think the standard deviation of pay for mechanics is much wider than you think, and possibly skewed by other factors than just simple geography.
I’m not saying that all mechanics make IT wages, but i am saying that I didn’t have to spend 10 years in school and $150k in debt to compete for a position that I earn 6 figures in. My job is not competitive for positions, they’re pretty abundant. Base pay for this position in my area (not a big city) is substantially higher than the national “average.” No formal education required.
But I must ask, why u so mad bro? Sounds like you’re living the dream life, no need to have an aneurism about other people’s money
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Basically nobody has 150K in debt form an undergrad degree. They have like 30-40K of debt, which is easy for them to back back over 10 years with when the starting salary is 50-60K and in 10 years they will most likely double that salary.
but keep telling me how everyone should be a mechanic and college is stupid. Please. because anyone who went to college is a dumb loser or something, or i dunno, maybe you are talking about your own poor choices when you were younger? I definitely have met very dumb folks who have 150K in debt from college, who were very mad about it, who also terrible employees and people in general.
A mechanic making over 100K exists, yes, but they are rare, and would be in highly specialized areas and likely late in their careers. There are bicycle mechanics who make over 100K a year, but for every 1 of them, there are about 1000s of them making 30K a year with the top end wage being about 45K after decades of experience. Should I tell folks to go be a bike mechanic because it’s a good career path because like .01% of professional race mechanics make good money? Becuase yeah, they have about a 1/10000 change of that career path, and a 99999/10000 change of working 40 hours a week in some crappy bike shop making 20 bucks an hour for the rest of their life.
Oh my life is the dream life. I get mad other very dumb people tell me that I’m the richest bastard in the world, or that i’m a poor piece of shit. of which there a lot of on lemmy. Instead the boring fact that I’m in the 85th percentile of income and the 90th percentile of asset wealth. I even was a landlord for a few years, which you know, makes me capitalist hyper scum.
But i prefer facts, statistics and reality, to emotional reasoning, which makes folks very mad. but they tend to respond to that stuff wtih ‘u mad bro? lolz i so smart u dumb because anecdote anecdote anecdote’.
benderbeerman@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I don’t think i said any of that. I think you’re just more upset than you need to be. You are angry typing and making all kinds of mistakes.
I never said college was dumb, I said you don’t need it for my job. I graduated college with under $5k debt. You said college for 10 years, and that would put you at well over an undergrad degree, unless you were taking like 4 credits a term. A masters degree will cost you around $150k and 10 years.
I never said everyone should be a mechanic, but there is nothing wrong with it. It’s not hard to make money unless you stay in a dead end position. That’s the same for almost any career tho.
I also never said you were either rich or poor. I don’t know or care about your financial positions in life. Much like your genitals: unless they’re being used on me, it’s none of my fucken business what you got.
I did make poor choices when I was young, but I am now older and have made much better decisions as I grew, coincidentally enough starting with a bicycle mechanic job. It was super cool and I learned a lot. But you are right, it didn’t pay the bills.
So I found a different mechanic job, one that paid around triple the bike mechanic job. It was somewhere I’d seen advertised for some time, so i checked it out and it made sense. I drove all over my state doing field service work. It was a good job, but i was at the “national average” pay for mechanics at that time. So I found another job, it paid around 50% more and had much better benefits and all the overtime i wanted (it wasn’t mandatory). I worked there a couple years and found another job that paid 25% more, and for the first time in my life, I was earning over $100k, and no overtime necessary.
The thing is, these last several jobs have been constantly hiring entry level mechanics at “national average” or higher since long before i started.
You seem to have a lack of understanding about being a mechanic. I can guarantee you that, as a mechanic. Unless you don’t want to try, the chances of you being stuck in a bike shop at $20/hr for the rest of your life is much lower than “99999/10000” (999.99%🤣) in fact, it doesn’t even approach 100/10000 (you know, 1%).
Anyway, don’t be so mad, and don’t take everything so personal. I’m not trying to make fun of you or hurt your feelings.