There would be absolutely nothing wrong with Picasso or DaVinci burning their works, and MANY artists throughout history have done just that. Look at Banksy’s “Love is in the Bin” for a modern take. I really don’t care what other people do with their art, its none of my business; this seems to be the core issue most of you are struggling with.
I have no expectation of finding like minds in online gaming communities for exactly the reasons of proportionality I have already stated. Gaming media, and gaming social media is a poor approximation of the opinions of the majority of gamers, as they don’t engage in either.
I am here explicitly to engage with fundamentalism as its a good reminder of how rigid and irrational people can get when they let their emotions dictate their opinions and actions. See you are emotionally invested in the outcome of this physical media issue. I literally do not care what happens. In some ways, the public (albeit minority) discourse around this issue is performative, and arguably functions as an extension of entire video game art ecosystem; we are both taking part in a collaborative performance right now.
DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s not what I asked. I asked you if the works they sold to others during their lifetimes should have been burned when they died. They are the original IP creators/holders. That’s very different from the artist themselves doing it, it is having another party let’s say the art fair where Picasso or whoever originally sold the artwork. When Picasso dies that market comes in and burns the work you bought. You support that?
If your answer is yes, then you’re even more out if line for calling me culturally illiterate
Even if you don’t care what happens with the phsycial medium if you are a gamer on PlayStation you will be affected by this outcome as it promotes anti consumer ideology at it’s core and when they see that this will work (for the ones who stay and accept this bs) more anti consumer practices will follow and you will be affected.
And if you don’t game on PlayStation, then wtf does your opinion matter on this it doesn’t even affect you at all.
TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Are you under the impression that Sony wants to come into your house and destroy all you old discs?
This example is still a false equivalency, no matter how many times you and others use it…when you purchase a digital license for a piece of software, you are not buying the canvas. You are buying a ticket to an exhibition.
That exhibition requires electricity, security, and ongoing staff labor to keep the building open. When the gallery can no longer afford the operating costs to pay that staff, they close the doors. They aren’t “burning” the art, the event is simply over. You are throwing a philosophical tantrum because you think your one-time ticket purchase means the gallery is legally obligated to stay open and pay its workers to maintain the exhibit for the rest of your life.
To your other point, I own every game console every created, from the Magnavox Odyssey to the PS5 Pro. I use all of them at various points, and engage with mobile and web-based gaming. I’ve been doing this for a LONG time and there are HUNDREDS of games I have played, adored, and will never be able to experience again and that is not only perfectly acceptable, it is beautiful.
Art. Is. Ephemeral.
DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Nope. I know this is hard for you to understand but I am suggesting that if someone sells their artwork, and you buy it, you should be allowed to own THAT COPY (yeah yeah its a licesnse you can make an entire paragraph about that again if you want to).
You said yourself that you think its ok if companies take a copy of something you have bought away from you and that is why you are unable to understand what everyone else is saying.
In this scenario, it is the same as buying a painting only to have someone come in and destroy it later. SONY ALREADY DOES THIS WITH GAMES AND MOVIES. You can look that up.
So no your willful misunderstanding of what I am saying is wrong. They will destroy copies of your DIGITAL GAMES going forward when they no longer offer the option of physical discs.
They have done this before, so what is so hard for you to accept and understand about them doing it again?
You WANT to get fucked. You want to have the media you consumed on a subscription based model that you never own. You said yourself you’re ok with that.
And that’s why no one respects your opinion on this. I’ve seen some of the other threads, you can take the “yes daddy fuck meplease” route with gaming and media in general if you want but don’t be upset when a loud majority of people are very vocal about that being bullshit and bad for gaming in general. Because it is.
TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I have never once in my life had the expectation that any digital entitlement I have purchased would be usable for the rest of my life.
Not only would that be an insane, illogical, and entitled perspective to hold; but it is also directly contradicted by every TOS/EULA of every single streaming service I have ever signed up for, and the T&C of every single digital purchase I have ever completed.
I am at a loss as to why you, or anyone else has ever had a different expectation.
Have you never actually read anything you’ve agreed to?
RTFM indeed…