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• PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The Germans didn’t vote for Hitler out after his first term, then thought 4 years later when everyone and their dog said “Dude is going to be a dictator” and thought ‘Yeah we want that!’

  Very different timelines. Not to mention Germany didn’t exactly have Global Communication Devices where the entire world is telling them “This is a bad idea, don’t do it” and Germany said “Nah, it won’t be that bad! He said he wants to be a dictator on Day 1 but he’s just trolling”.

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  • yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So… No? But yes to genocide of the people in the US? Still confused as to why you’re so angry towards the struggling, deliberately misguided and exploited working class people instead of the capitalist elite.

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    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Because America did this. If you’re butt hurt I’m looping you and others like you in with America, that sounds remarkably like a you problem. America voted for Trump. America cheered on as he threatened other countries. America cheered as he bombed Iran and gas prices skyrocketed.

      If you as an individual did not, then good for you. But your country did. This whole thread started off with me saying I have no respect for America after everything they have done, and will never have respect for America ever again. If you take offence to that, do something to change how the world looks at you or shut up.

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      • yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Haha, I mean, I’m not really disagreeing with your sentiment that the US has caused unprecedented suffering, domestically and abroad. Duh. But the math isn’t mathing; democracy is clearly eroding in the US. We don’t have proportional representation, corporations fight policies at the fuckin municipal level, power is just not actually in the hands of the people. It only looks like the citizens voted for this if one thinks the people have at least as much power as capital. Trump is not popular, yet he is in power. I see Trump as a natural continuation of what happens over time when capital crushes unions, guts social services, replaces anything and everything possible with a for-profit option. Not natural as in good, but can we really be surprised? It woulda been more surprising if Harris had won, imo, and it’s not like we woulda stopped funding the Palestinian genocide, or “securing” the southern border.

        It sounds more like you are the one who is butthurt and content on pointing fingers in a direction that isn’t at the top. I’d bet my left nut that Canadian capital isn’t complaining about the dominance of capital in general. Idk if I’d put Canada on that much a higher pedestal.

        I’m not saying “don’t be mad at the US” or anything like that. But you opened with charged language of “fuck 'em all” and whatnot. I get that the actions of Trump has been negatively effecting Canada and the rest of the world, as the US is the global hegemon and the world runs on the US dollar. I’m saying THAT is the problem. While we struggle within the US against this, it makes it actively harder to resist when the rest of the world accepts the “protection” of US empire.

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