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• Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Disagree. Disgusting fascist take but ok en.wikipedia.org/…/Adriana_Smith_pregnancy_case

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  • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good, bad, fascist, whatever, doesn’t matter, to a disagreement on nomenclature. A biologically functioning body with a working ATP cycle, isn’t a corpse.

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      brain dead is considered dead.

      no matter if cells still have atp.

      it’s a corpse.

      there’s no biological definition for human death. besides a vague “is it curable”

      death used to be cardiac death, but we figured out how to save people who had cardiac death, so we move the goalpost to brain death.

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      • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If brain dead is dead bacteria are dead.

        A brain dead body isn’t a person, but that doesn’t make it a corpse. All the biological functions continue. The ATP cycle continues. The body takes in nutrients and uses them to maintain their nirmal biological functions. Corpses don’t do that.

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      • Err0r_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s literally not a corpse, it’s a brain-dead person / body.

        You started this debate with Steve by using sensationalizing language, and I’m here to provide definitions and lay this discussion to rest:

        www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/…/brain-dead?q…

        www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/…/corpse?q=Cor…

        We can all agree that what they’ve done is horrible, there’s no need to distort language to make a point.

        A corpse can not carry a pregnancy, a brain-dead body apparently can if assisted.

        I’ll see myself out.

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      • troglodytis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s simple not correct. A corpse would have more rights to autonomy. You can’t force a corpse to donate live saving organs, but you can make a woman.

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  • dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How does this have upvotes? Calling someone fascist for thinking a living body isn’t a corpse? Man this place is such a shit hole sometimes.

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  • brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I understand the fascist comment earlier, this time not sure how you define it?

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• Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Brain death is death. He’s dead en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death

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  • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If brain death is dead, single cell organisms are dead.

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    • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’re not single called organisms

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      • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Of course not. But the definition of death you gave, doesn’t distinguish between forms of life.

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    • Magnum@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah the current definition pretty much says a lot of dead stuff together is making one living being

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