I’ve watched both White Christmas and St Junipero and I do not see what the implication should be. Care to elaborate?
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HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours agoI do love some cozy, optimistic sci-fi.
Well, as others have said, Black Mirror is definitely not cozy/optimistic. In my opinion, it’s easy to miss the final point of San Junipero. You have to have watched the episode White Christmas. If you’ve seen that episode, you know what cookies are and you know that there is an implication in the last seconds of San Junipero that, in my opinion, is pretty dark.
Still the best fucking episode though.
muzzle@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Well, in white Christmas, the cookie is extracted from the host’s brain and is depicted as a little round silver object that is then placed in the… smart-speaker-style container, and we see that it is an exact copy of the host and even (briefly) thinks it is the host.
It is swiftly (in the real world lol) disabused of that notion with such a horrific kick in the ass that it gladly, willingly, lovingly accepts a life of slavery over the alternative which was only barely demonstrated to it.
The other cookie in the episode, the murderer they are trying to elicit a confession from, experiences much more horrific circumstances than the first cookie (with the infinite unbreakable radio) and the humans in the real world who casually inflict this on them are depicted as being completely cavalier about it.
San Junipero did not need that last shot. It could have ended with them dancing. We all knew it was virtual reality. We all knew what was happening. If they just wanted a happy ending, then pointing us directly at the hardware that looks suspiciously like a cookie sitting in a warehouse full of cookies is to me a pretty direct statement, given that cookies are basically given hellish experiences in the only other episode they are referenced.
restingOface@quokk.au 3 hours ago
cookies are basically given hellish experiences in the only other episode they are referenced
Cookies are featured in several episodes. Not only is the technology slightly different most of the time, it is not always used for torture. In addition to San Junipero, Hang the DJ, Eulogy, and Ashley Too (arguable) are not hellish.
HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 minutes ago
Hey it’s just an opinion, man.
restingOface@quokk.au 6 hours ago
What is so dark? I feel like I must be missing something. Their consciousnesses are being maintained by a server farm. But what is dark about that? It just seems optimistic and such how they get to pretend to live in their 20s forever. Nothing like living in a torturous snow globe or whatever.
hansolo@lemmy.today 6 hours ago
What server farm is forever?
The series Upload is like taking the idea and giving it its own universe. It’s good, but I’ll ruin the black mirror episode.
restingOface@quokk.au 3 hours ago
From their perspective, it’s forever.
HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
I gave a detailed reply that has some spoilers below.