Comment on Do you think that Trump is the most hated U.S. president?
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 days agoNot the feeling I get in Wisconsin. Sure, the bumper stickers and lawn signs have largely disappeared, (You wouldn’t believe how long the yard signs stayed up) and the homes/properties that displayed giant Trump signs (Some made giant signage, the cult is real) largely still display them outside cities. I don’t notice as many red baseball caps these days–
But I can drive ~15 minutes from home and show you a barn with a 100-foot wide Trump sign bolted to its face, still today. In rural areas it seems some people would support him even if he went crazier and declared his dementia was a gift from God.
There’s a home in my city that made their own “Trump 24 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT” banner that stood for years, built out of wooden poles a foot wide and 1/2 inch plywood which only recently got defaced enough for them to remove it and replace it with a new (non-trump) far right politician’s campaign sign.
Feel like I live in a sanitarium.
immutable@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Out here in rural Ohio I’ve noticed a lot of the trump signs slowly fade away. Replaced by either “NO DATA CENTER” signs or signs supporting other republicans or some general idea of America (one house proudly flew a trump flag and fight fight fight bunting up until the Iran war, they took the bunting down and replaced the trump flag with a black flag that just says 1776 on it)
There are still some signs up, still some flags up, and I doubt the people that took theirs down have actually had a change of heart politically and more just don’t want to look foolish as diesel hit $5 and they couldn’t afford to run the machines they needed to plant.
It’s sad really. Americans are getting fucked everyday by the wealthy elites in this nation, trump tells them “hey you are getting fucked and I can make it better” and at no point do they stop and go “hmm, we are getting fucked, but he’s the kind of guy that does the fucking, could he maybe be tricking us?” And instead are so hungry for someone to have their interest at heart they will buy into the cult. He gives them some weird things to be angry about, immigrants, woke people, whatever his boogeyman of the week is, and hurts those people. The cult sees it as finally someone fighting for them because they failed to identify the actual cause of their problems.
I think the “NO DATA CENTER” signs are maybe the most interesting development. If only they could put together that it isnt immigrants or trans athletes building these data centers. It’s wealthy fucks who will never be satisfied, more than willing to spoil your water, jack up your electric bill, and blast your homes with constant humming and buzzing, all ao they can have a little bit more. One would hope they could look around and realize that this ongoing class war that they are badly losing is the cause, but I suspect their hate mongers will find a way to blame minorities and queers again. The data center owner isnt to blame, no it’ll be woke scientist lying to you that data centers are poisoning your drinking water because they are nefarious communists who hate our way of life, just ignore that cancer you keep getting and hate them.
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah I wonder too how many just took their signage and flags down but haven’t change their minds in the slightest- just took the “kick me” sign off of their backs.
Do you think we even have a way to turn away form it as a country at this point? My perspective isn’t terribly hopeful.
immutable@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I think trump actually gives a playbook.
I despise the man, but he had a pretty simple plan.
And that’s kinda all voters want, someone to tell them that they aren’t crazy when they feel like shit is fucked up and then fix it.
The Republican Party intentionally gets step 2 wrong. Not out of incompetence but because the actual causes of our problems are often the people bankrolling them, so it’s better to find some kind of scape goat. This is why they are so focused on doing the dumbest shit imaginable, because they have to purposefully misidentify the causes of problems.
The Democratic Party is also largely owned by the same donors, they just bafflingly fuck up every step. Neoliberal technocrats love to “um actually” step 1 and try to convince people that they aren’t actually struggling. Step 2 they mostly identify real problems but then aren’t going to be allowed to solve them because their donors get very rich off those problems existing. So they fuck up step 2 in a different way, the democrats are more than capable of telling you that global warming is real and caused by humans, but if we focus on that you might want to move on to step 3 and do something to stop it and the donors won’t like that, so let’s put some other issue the donors dont care about front and center instead. And if they ever get around to step 3, you get the ACA (aka Obamacare). A heritage foundation plan that entrenches the power of the healthcare and insurance industries perpetually locking us into a failed system with one or two genuinely good things, like outlawing denials based on pre-existing conditions, to make it palatable to the voters.
Both major parties are captured by the donor class, it’s not even a secret, every member of congress will tell you they spend more time “dialing for dollars” aka calling up rich people and begging for money (that we are supposed to believe is completely no strings attached, wink) than anything else. At the end of the day both parties work for those people. They pass laws and tax codes to benefit the wealthy.
The only way out is for a political movement to run trumps playbook but actually do all 3 steps correctly. Mamdani is maybe closest to showing this as a viable path to power, I think he is finger best contemporary example of someone executing it well.