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• Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  First, i never said YOU did not think! How do you assume i have this opinion of you?

  This is the part that I responded negatively to:

  If we don’t question the given facts, and form our own opinion, we are not better then the real Nazis.

  Discrediting political opponents was part of their playbook.

  To me I came across like, “If you discredit a politician you’re no better than a Nazi,” even though in some situations, like this one, there are legitimate reasons to consider a politician discredited.

  Here we go, 5 minute gimp job. But asking for proof is considered hostile now?

  The proof was already there. I guess you needed to see it on the specific location the see the similarities? Generally, asking for proof when there’s already proof is going to get a negative reaction.

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  • vapeloki@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To me I came across like, “If you discredit a politician you’re no better than a Nazi,” even though in some situations, like this one, there are legitimate reasons to consider a politician discredited.

    Sorry, that was not my intention. Let me rephrase this: We are living in a political environment, where old Nazi tactics are applied, based on my observations mostly from the political right. I see many echoed statements from people, that never even had a look at the images, his comments and more.

    This is bad. We should assume that everything anybody says about a politician is a lie until proven otherwise. Thats the assumption of innocence and always true, but especially now.

    Also, again, not claiming YOU do this.

    The proof was already there. I guess you needed to see it on the specific location the see the similarities? Generally, asking for proof when there’s already proof is going to get a negative reaction.

    As i stated multiple times, i could not say if it is the same or not. I am autistic, so, it maybe a personal thing, but for me it was not clear at all. Proof is not “i can see it, trust me!”, but, "Here it is, everybody now has the same facts and information, independently from his personal feelings, past experiences and interpretation.

    And my conclusion currently: This dude did some very uninformed, very stupid stuff. I can not see that he is or was a rightwinger or Nazi, even in comments used against him (defining idiots that have “bolt” tattoos) he makes it political position clear.

    Do i think somebody that defends people with literal SS tattoos is somebody that should have political power? No, but not because he is a Nazi, no, just because he is stupid AF.

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