Comment on Albanese government rejects all UN recommendations on improving LGBTQIA+ rights

• MisterFrog@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Federal lawcouncil.au/…/anti-discrimination-laws

  And federal supremacy clause en.wikipedia.org/…/Section_109_of_the_Constitutio…

  So, yeah, the states can legislate for discrimination, but if there’s any conflict, federal takes president.

  I am not a lawyer, and freely admit I am not an expert on this, but it feels like you’re pretending like the federal government doesn’t have these powers as an excuse for why they ignored all the recommendations. But they DO legislate on matters of discrimination, that is simply true.

  And unless you’ve got something extra up your sleeve, I think you’re making excuses.

  It’s okay to disagree with the Party you support, provided you agree with the majority of their positions. It’s a bit annoying if you make excuses for them though.

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  • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    See the other comment regarding federal overrides of state responsibility

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    • MisterFrog@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Had to go looking, you mean this?

      we should undermine the democratic process and state government powers because I don’t like it when the state government doesn’t lean the way I personally want

      A very dangerous road to walk

      I never thought I’d be defending the coalition but imagine if the coalition federal government (who historically avoid/prevent federal overrides) did this for issues like abortion

      This is a cop out, because certain issues should be legislated for the whole country (opinions, and constitutionally where the power lies, varies)

      Nek minnit you’ll be telling me the states should take back their right to legislate workers rights (which they used to).

      It absolutely makes sense for it to be uniform across the country. This isn’t the USA, most people don’t believe in states rights. Depending on the topic, opinions will vary on what should and should not be prerogative of federal vs state.

      What is true is that devolving too many things creates a mess. Engineering registrations are hodge-podge even though we regularly work between jurisdictions. Chemical regs are also not harmonised, meaning you a nation-wide company has to follow different rules for every state… (taking examples from my industry, but you get the point).

      Transport infrastructure makes sense to be state by state, since we’re such a big country with a relatively sparse population.

      Unless you just want to be rid of the federal government entirely, what exactly do you think is the point of the federal government?

      In conclusion, federal Labor absolutely should and importantly could have implemented at least some of the recommendations… and you saying “oh it’s dangerous!” seems unconvincing to me.

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      • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Now we’re in opinion territory. Pull a move like this and the upcoming one nation federal government will absolutely fuck the entire country on issues like abortion

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