Comment on How come no one has taken 'A Hero's Journey' and applied it to the bible? Would this not give more evidence to work of fiction or non fiction?

KRAW@linux.community ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I have to disagree there:

  1. The Ordinary World,

  Baby born to poor people in a manger

  2. Call to Adventure

  Three wise men show up and proclaim him the messiah and help guide him

  3. Refusal of the Call

  A literal 18 year time skip between age 12 and 30

  4. Meeting the Mentor

  Assumed why he returned from this time skip as a rabbi

  5. Crossing the Threshold

  Gaining his first disciples and preaching

  6. Tests, Allies, and Enemies

  Judas

  7. Approach to the Inmost Cave

  Acceptance of Judas’ betrayal

  8. Ordeal

  Obvious

  9. Reward 10) The Road Back 11) Resurrection

  I mean 9 10 and 11 are the same here. Dude came back from the dead.

  12. Return with the Elixir.

  He was said to grant boons to his former disciples before he left the second time.

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  • KRAW@linux.community ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Lol, somebody hasn’t actually read the Bible. You have taken quite a few liberties, just in the first few points.

    1. Jesus is never portrayed as "ordinary."
    2. The wisemen don’t proclaim anything. An angel appears to Mary before Jesus is born and tells her exactly what will happen and what to do.
    3. Jesus is a literal baby at this point. He can’t refuse anything
    4. Assumptions are of no value compared to facts, or at least something that is actually in a historical text or the actual Bible.
    5. This is not what “Crossing the Threshold” would be in the Hero’s Journey. It’s like Luke leaving Tatooine or Frodo leaving the shire. Jesus is the son of God, at least in the context of the New Testament. There is no “threshold.” He’s part of an omniscient being.

    and considering that’s almost half of the steps, I don’t think we need to go any further

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  • justaman123@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You can’t argue with the faithful with facts, their beliefs don’t rest on facts. By it’s very nature it’s about believing a story they were told when they were children. Before they knew most things had to be priced with facts

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  How about the ancient nation of Israel

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  • KRAW@linux.community ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That is a much stronger argument, except Israel is hardly ever portrayed as a “hero.” The Bible portrays Israel as a nation that is constant going astray and making the wrong decisions.

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