Comment on Why are there so many more mtf trans vs ftm trans people??

• AskewLord@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  men are generally invisible in society unless they are powerful or influential.

  lots of ftm people talk about how becoming a man is so shocking because once they pass they become totally invisible as human beings. nobody cares about them anymore, like they did when they were women.

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  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s a fair take on the situation. I’m also seeing a chicken and the egg situation here. Like are ftm easier to make passable or are they more passable because people aren’t paying as much attention to the differences. Seems to be a bit of both. I’m very queer and trans friendly. A lot of people move to this area because the government helps pay for hormones and transition. Also the city is just very queer friendly.

    I wouldn’t say I’m part of the community but definitely have friends in almost every aspect of it from hardcore leather men to my introverted artsy ftm friend. I will say I have far more mtf and gay male or even lesbian acquaintances. Honestly now that I’m thinking about it we really don’t talk about it or the community much. Usually when I hang out with people we’re just being goofy artsy stoners and I just see them the same way I see everyone, just as people, if that makes sense. Also there’s a bit of psychedelic hijinks, and when people trip sexuality or even the body or human things can kinda take a backseat, just an amorphous soul floating through some mental states.

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    • AskewLord@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There doesn’t seem to be a sense of ‘pride’ or for FtM the same way there is MtF.

      Anecdotal… but MtF in my personal experience kind of ‘demand’ to be recognized as such, FtM don’t care about being acknowledged as men. They kind of just don’t care, their gender expression isn’t as performantive or public… which is kinda of how most average men are. They don’t really care that much about their presentation. So a successful FtM transition is likely going to carry those ‘male’ traits of not caring about attention/recognition as much.

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