Comment on Muslims in Denmark when a non-Muslim cartoonist doesn't follow their religious laws and the Government just tells them to take it up with the publisher instead of banning blasphemy:

• musicjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Ok and the depths of Islamic relations to Christianity and the west goes back literally 1000yrs at a global scale like that’s not remotely similar or in the same general ballpark as a temporary political movement in America centered around a reality TV figure. The rot of people being too retarded to not get fooled by obviously phony bad actors is as deep as it’s always been and isn’t better anywhere else; normies will fall for Trump type figures (or Newsom if you want to use the blue counterpart) because they are normies not because there’s some extraordinary amount of rot

  Pedophilia in the west vs the way underage girls are treated in say Islamic countries I’d say in the big picture western society mogs hard in that department second only to China as they use capital punishment for predators. Even look at America vs France like yes there are elements of this baked into culture and yes it’s problematic but comparing that to a religion that allows for abuse of women and children is only muddying the waters and making western society seem worse than it is and the sand societies look better than they are

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  • Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There’s a good deal of misconceptions in this stance. Top of the list is that women being more than the property of their man is a remarkably young stance in the west, barely 100 years old. Prior to that, and for the majority of history, women were property to be traded and this was based on biblical scripture.

    Now, ignoring the hidden undertone for now, only 16 states outright ban child marriage in the US. That’s across political lines, Massachusetts only moved the age from 12 to 18 in 2022. Historically, marriage and prostitution at ages as young as 9 have been present during the westward expansion and earlier. Most of our founding fathers slept with what we would call underage slaves. This isn’t an American thing, it was just as common in Europe. The French sex trade even inspired the book Lolita.

    Now let’s look at the undertones. CPS investigate around 300,000 reports of child sex abuse annually. The FBI report that 67% of investigated sex crimes involve minors. They also estimate that only 37% of sex crimes in total are reported. If the total reported sex crimes is around 98,000 annually, then it’s estimated that actually 265,000 happen annually. Which means 177,500 children get sexually abused annually. If that’s a consistent pattern through history, that means 1 in 13 Americans was or is currently a sexually abused child.

    The response to the Epstein situation shows that culturally we allow pedophilia if punishing it would inconvenience us in any way. Other side by RHCP is about fucking a 14 year old. Steven Tyler knocked up a 16 year old and even became her legal guardian so he could take her on tours. Bill Wyman of the rolling stones started dating his wife when she was 13. Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, Ted Nugent, Elvis. The list goes on for actors, young Natalie Portman literally appeared in Playboy. Politicians are the same. So long as you’re not poor no one willingly does anything to stop you from raping children.

    I’m not trying to say we’re worse than any other group, I’m saying the only difference is that we aren’t open about it.

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