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BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago“something is wrong with the Turing test”
Nope, there’s nothing wrong with the test. It wasn’t designed to test if it was “strong AI” or anything like that, it was designed to answer the question “Can machines think?” and at this point, the clear answer is yes they can.
Are they perfect? No. Can you trip them up? Yes.
Are both of those previous answers also true for humans? Yes.
There’s plenty of humans that would struggle with counting the number of “r” in Strawberry, and most models are well past that level of failure. The current ones even recommend you drive to the car wash even if it’s only 50 feet down the road.
Nope, there’s nothing wrong with the test. It wasn’t designed to test if it was “strong AI”
That was EXACTLY what it was designed for, the argument being that if it is indistinguishably from a human, it has human like consciousness. That’s way beyond thinking.
Computers are “thinking” routinely. Chess programs that have existed since the 80’s are already proof of that.
Cleaner Wrasse are conscious according to the mirror test. No one would call those fish intelligent. They are smart enough, but they are only self-conscious enough to recognize themselves in a reflection to help remove parasites.
Nothing in the Turing Test proves intelligence. Sounding human is so easy, a chat bot that pretends to be a scared little boy was the first to complete it, way back in 2014. Assuming that fooling a human is hard it’s even less convincing.
Nothing in the Turing Test proves intelligence.
This is simply wrong, only Religious nutcases believe so.
And godless machine learning engineers like myself. I think you assume I think humans and only humans are intelligent. I am not convinced humans are conscious. There have been many cases where that simply isn’t true or obvious.
Have a good day, religious nutjob.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
To paraphrase Jordan Peterson, “define think.”
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
To sum up Alan Turing something can think if it can fool humans in the imitation game.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I don’t find that a particulary satisfying definition, and doubt an up-to-date Alan Turing would either.
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I’m not so sure that he would. The whole thing is rather moot though because thinking isn’t a yes or no question.
A fun quote I heard previously, was from someone involved in making bear proof garbage bins stating that there were challenges because there’s a significant overlap between the dumbest humans and the smartest bears.