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This is overpriced for the hardware.

I challenge you to build out a parts list with comparable performance for cheaper. And it needs to be more than a 10% difference. You can’t just show a savings of $50 and claim victory, because there’s a lot you get in convenience and guarantees when you buy hardware from Valve.

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mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
You forgot the form factor

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black0ut@pawb.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Gamers Nexus released a parts list with better performance for cheaper. And it’s more upgradable than the Steam Machine. And it doesn’t suffer from high temps.

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The sad reality is that this product is not competitive in today’s expensive market. The original leaked price range ($550-$750) would have been competitive, and a price hike to $850 would have been reasonable after the AI hardware price hikes. But Valve is a company that can make use of the economy of scale, and it shouldn’t have developed a PC that has issues and still turns out to be more expensive than a DIY PC with similar specs.

And before anyone mentions it, yes, I wanted this product to succeed. Valve has been bringing a lot of gamers to the Linux world, and that could be good for us. If the price was good, I was even thinking about buying a steam machine myself, because my system is getting old. I’m still hyped for the steam frame, but the steam machine is not it. Not at this price, at least.

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- hirihit640@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  Gamers Nexus released a parts list with better performance for cheaper.
  
  only $70 cheaper…
  
  And it’s more upgradable than the Steam Machine. And it doesn’t suffer from high temps.
  
  And considerably larger. The small form factor of the steam machine is a big advantage for many.
  
  Gamers Nexus just proved that the steam machine is competitively priced in the current landscape
  
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- CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I literally said “it has to be more than a 10% price difference”. And if you’re bad at math, that’s more than $100.
  
  And that extra $100 gets you warranty from Valve, a sleek compact form factor, and a ready-to-go system.
  
  The price from GN is less than a $100 difference. And their point was basically to show that you can’t get much cheaper than Valve’s price, and that it is actually competitive.
  
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nullspace@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Fair point. I’m biased to give Valve a pass, but if any other company released a similar product at a similar price point I’d be skewering them.

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TheOakTree@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Kind of impossible when a company like Valve has hardware purchasing power which means RAM and NVME are bought at a less absurd price.

It’s also worth mentioning that you can’t really upgrade a Steam Machine down the line when it starts to feel underwhelming in a couple years, given its 8GB VRAM/RDNA3 architecture. I wouldn’t say it’s overpriced but I wouldn’t say it offers much value either. It just has quirks (software & formfactor).

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tomalley8342@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
You can’t really get cheaper for the same performance since with new parts, since you’re already looking at the lowest xx50 tier of gaming GPUs where you’re forced to accept unfortunately low price-to-performance ratios.

If you fix the price to stay the same, a 5600x and a 9060xt 16gb will cost you around the base model’s MSRP and will give you ~60-120% more performance depending on game and performance. I imagine the 120% is when the 8gb VRAM on the steam machine runs out at 4k, lol.

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