I mean, I live in the US. There’s a lack of good food and healthcare and spare time here more than most.
I want to challenge you to take a real look around the next time you’re in like a grocery store or somewhere public. There are a lot of women in their 50s doing just fine and looking great and they’re not celebrities.
Again, finding out fit women in their 50s exist shouldn’t leave you genuinely baffled and in disbelief.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
… I’m autistic and thus abnormally aware of patterns and details, basically all the time, everywhere, by default.
What I have described to you as my reality, as my lived experience, is accurate.
To me, a 55 yo woman in … yeah, basically as good of shape as a world famous celebrity actress?
Exceptionally uncommon.
About the same level of exceptionally uncommon as a random 55 yo man being in the same shape / physique as say, Liam Neeson or maybe Daniel Craig or Idris Elba.
Can you really just not accept that another person’s lived experience could… significantly differ from your own?
velma@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Just being on FetLife will show you plenty of women in their 50s in pretty good shape.
I don’t understand why you believe that women like this don’t exist other than celebrities. I’m aware that most of society believes that older women are useless and thus invisible to the male gaze, but Jesus Christ dude - is it really to this extent for you?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
You seem to be deliberately missing the part where I said ‘in my local area’.
In my local area… no, so far in my experience using fetlife, you are wrong.
The woman I am talking about is absolutely exceptional in terms of physique, compared to her peers in the same area, I have yet to see anyone comparable… though of course, again as I previously said… I’ve only just started using the site.
Sure, if I look … across everyone on the entire site, everywhere, then yes, I will most likely see more 55 yo women who have great physiques.
But I don’t live in New York or LA or Paris or something.
I live in a ‘city’ with a population significantly under 500k, and its a poorer city, in a poorer state.
You are the one who decided that what I originally said and meant was ‘no 55 yo women exist who have exceptional physiques’. You interpreted it that way, ignoring pertinent context and then explicit statements from myself where I made every attempt to explain that no that is not what I meant…
… and you are trying to spin this as extracting a confession from me.
This is bad faith in the extreme.
I also never said that most older women are invisible to me. I talk to a fair number of older women in my apartment… somewhat regularly, when we pass in the halls or what not. I enjoy their conversation, occasionally I help them out with some kind of chore type task, they help me out with some kind of chore… I just am not generally sexually attracted to them.
I explictly said that it would be ridiculous to have the same physical expectations for a 30 yo and 55 yo woman, yet you persist in insulting me and painting me as a misogynist who thinks all old women are ugly.
Also, I’m not the one downvoting you. Somebody else is doing that. You could verify this if you wanted to, I believe there are tools by which possible to do that on lemmy, or you could ping a mod or admin if you really want, i think they could as well.
I hope you do not consider it ‘stalking’ to reply to a conversation chain that you started and are continuing.
People can be ‘not in 100% agreement with you’ and not be a stalker-misogynist.
velma@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I wasn’t calling you a stalker-misogynist unless you’re the one downvoting every single comment I make.
velma@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I live in a city that isn’t even at 250k population and see plenty of regular women over 55 that are fit.
I simply don’t believe you that out of hundreds of thousands of people, there’s no middle aged women that are fit in your city. It’s not believable.