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Objection@lemmy.ml 6 days agoEven if that’s true, they are still in the US sphere of influence just like Saudi Arabia, and that’s all that US politicians care about. They will happily overlook Israeli crimes just as they overlook Saudi crimes, and I don’t see people suggesting the Saudis have blackmail material.
What do people mean by saying the US does whatever Israel wants? Sending them weapons to kill brown kids in Palestine, Lebanon, etc? The US wants to do that. Bombing Iran? The US wants to do that. Either you have to take the theory further and say that the whole reason the US wants to dominate the region is for Israel’s sake (I don’t know why they can’t just want to dominate it for their own sake), or you have to ignore all the conflicts the US has gotten involved in in the region that aren’t directly related to Israel, brushing them off as coincidence.
Either way, the simplest explanation is that the US is simply a militaristic state hellbent on domination and expansion through conquest, motivated by the same things that have always motivated imperial conquest.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 days ago
That Israel has invested in American politicians and American public opinion for decades. It doesn’t absolve the US of its moral failing, but it provides an explanation.
Objection@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
And the US has done the same to other countries. And there are countless billionaires and corporations that influence US politics just as Israel does.
Maybe we should focus more on the general problem of class conflict rather than looking at it in terms of nations. If you got all the Israeli money out of US politics but did nothing about the other corporate money and corruption, it’s hard to imagine much would change.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 days ago
Why do you keep taking people talking about how something is working as them saying it is good and just?
Objection@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
I have no idea what you’re talking about.