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• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union.

  — Abraham Lincoln

  Lincoln fought slavery to protect another evil: settler colonialism, i.e. the Union.

  Every President of AmeriKKKa voluntarily helmed a white supremacist settler-colonial entity. There’s no good Presidents, and there never will be.

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  • Steve@communick.news ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s called shifting the goalpost.

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    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s called Shifting the Goalpost.

      internet-delenda-est yeah obviously I was a bit sloppy in my initial response. Wow. Absolutely shocking. This isn’t fucking debate club.

      Shown that reason doesn’t apply.

      Actually you haven’t. Under Lincoln’s presidency, the Union went on to nominally outlaw slavery — except in cas es of crime. The 13th Amendment has been used to keep penal slavery illegal. Lincoln himself did not personally own slaves, but he was absolutely complicit as a President in maintaining the institution of slavery.

      I’m sure that’s also not the reason you don’t like it.

      The reason I don’t like the monuments is because I am an outspoken anarchist and AmeriKKKa is a shining beacon on a hill for everything I despise about the world.

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      • Steve@communick.news ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think that slavers don’t deserve monuments […]
        Lincoln himself did not personally own slaves, but [yada, yada, yada]

        You’re just making a different shift here.
        Shifting the definition of slaver, from one commonly understood usage, to your own personal version.

        But that doesn’t even matter, as you admit that’s not the reason you don’t like it.
        The reason you don’t like it, isn’t any rational practical reason. It’s an ideological dogmatism. A decree. Because you don’t like it, other’s shouldn’t be allowed to. Which is kind of funny coming from “an outspoken anarchist”.

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      • m0darn@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Lincoln himself did not personally own slaves, but he was absolutely complicit as a President in maintaining the institution of slavery.

        This is maybe the most absolutely deranged thing I have ever read.

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• callouscomic@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  …when it was politically convenient yo do so to garner support for the war, especially from Britain.

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