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stevestevesteve@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

I don’t care. I don’t have to use the womans bathroom

You’re literally making my point for me. Let’s say you, believing yourself a man, go to use the men’s restroom. I look at you, see that you look “chestier” than my idea of a man, and you’re in the men’s restroom!! Now I start screaming about you harassing me in my gender’s restroom. You need to leave!!!

How fucking stupid. Nobody needs to be policing people’s appearances in what should be a pretty safe place.

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realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Let’s say you, believing yourself a man, go to use the men’s restroom. I look at you, see that you look “chestier” than my idea of a man, and you’re in the men’s restroom!!

Which wouldn’t be a problem because men can defend themselves from other men. Also, men usually aren’t raped somewhere outside - men rape usually occurs in relationships, and at a MUCH lower rate than for women. I don’t have a problem with trans-men going to the mens bathroom. I have a problem with trans-WOMEN going to the WOMENS bathroom because women should be protected from this kind of harassment. Men do not experience that level of harassment.

The fact that you can’t even realize such a simple thing and you unironically thought it’s some kind of “gotcha” moment or whatever just proofs my point that you are living in a delusion where the world is a merry place and everyone gets a pony for his 12th birthday. So any kind of discussion with you in this regard is completely useless since you can’t even understand the simplest concepts.

Feel free to type some more nonsense, but I honestly can’t be bothered to read it anymore.

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- stevestevesteve@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Quick recap here:
  
  I said we should put signs on gendered bathroom doors, since not everyones genitals look the same and gender doesn’t equate to genitals.
  
  You replied that gender “mostly” equates to genitals.
  
  Someone else said that’s no reason for non-inclusivity
  
  You said your girlfriend got “almost raped” by a trans person and nobody’s allowed to argue until they are almost raped too
  
  I said we’re all affected by this kind of vitriol on a daily basis
  
  You said trans women harassing cis women is “the reality hundreds of thousands, if not millions of women” and made more unsubstantiated claims of harassment
  
  I asked for some real evidence of these hundreds of thousands of even millions of women getting harassed by trans women on a regular basis.
  
  You refused to to produce any evidence of that and instead called me a delusional, misogynistic clown.
  
  I continued to restate my primary argument in the post: Let’s put signs on doors if we’re going to pointlessly gender the rooms they lead to, and asked how you’d feel being pushed out of your own gender’s space.
  
  You are saying harassment of men “wouldn’t be a problem” and continued to say that I’m the delusional one.
  
  So you’re still arguing against putting gender signs on gendered bathrooms I guess? What is actually wrong with you, dude?
  
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- stevestevesteve@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  Which wouldn’t be a problem
  
  I don’t think you understand. I’m talking about YOU. A man. getting pushed out of the men’s restroom for looking too “feminine.” You wouldn’t have a problem with that? www.amazon.com/dp/1338798618 I’ll leave this here for you in case you want to brush up.
  
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Miaou@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
It’s funny you feel the need to inverse the genders in your story because you realise how ridiculous your point is if we stuck to the original genders.

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- stevestevesteve@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I didn’t invert the genders. I was talking about specifically him as he is, a man.
  
  Yes, it is equally as insane if a woman is pushed out of the women’s restroom for looking too masculine. I’m not sure what point you’re arguing though.
  
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