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• CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Most people don’t have wheelchairs either, yet crosswalks have those little dips in the curb for wheelchairs. And consequently it’s far more pleasant now for cyclists and any other person traveling on sidewalks with wheels

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  • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    First of all, no idea what you’re talking about. We have those curbs on train platforms, but those are for blind people so they don’t fall onto the tracks.

    Second, I don’t get what you’re trying to say tbh. The womens bathroom is better with trans people in it or what is the argument here?

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    • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re saying accessibility makes everyone’s lives better

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      • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t see how allowing biological men in the womens bathroom is making anyone’s life better, especially considering the downsides which is that many women find it extremely troubling to see men in an area that is usually reserved for them.

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• thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  that’s no excuse for non-inclusivity

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  • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait until your girlfriend gets harassed and almost raped in the womens bathroom by a “trans woman”, then we can discuss this non-inclusivity bullshit.

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    • TheMuffinMan@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m sorry that happened to your girlfriend, but anyone is capable of rape. You seem to be fixating on the trans part because it affirms your biases.

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      • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, but not anyone is normally allowed in the womens bathroom, or other “female zones”, if you will. Men don’t have anything to do in there. If you don’t pass as a woman, you shouldn’t be in there. Simple as that.

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    • stevestevesteve@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh why would I need to wait for that to discuss inclusivity?

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      • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Because when you or someone close to you has been affected by it, you start to see things from another view than that ivory tower most of you live in.

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    • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the problems id see:

      • obviously the harassment and attempted rape itself, regardless of genders involved
      • someone in a vulnerable group is punching down
      • the bathroom is not designed for universal privacy and safety (having proper walls)

      it happening in a bathroom would not be that much of a detail tbh

      also all my girlfriends are trans

      and cis men are the demographic most likely to be rapists, so vulnerable people (anyone who isnt a cis man) should be able to stay away

      so id want my girlfriends safe from them primarily because theyre a way bigger risk

      and also claiming that gendered bathrooms are safe because men (or, as seems to be the more common argument, cock havers) will want to rape women (which is taken to mean pussy havers rather than ppl who would be seen as women which is what would actually get them targeted), which erases non-heterosexuals (and being bi, gay, and straight are equally common among trans people), making it an invalid “solution”

      all genders (and sexes) are capable of rape, but cishet men are the most likely to do it, and a lot more of them are bi/gay than admit it, and also people might rape outside of their sexualities out of power dyamics

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