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daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days agoMaterially speaking is more expensive to send a letter next town than a packet from something like aliexpress.
From sending a letter next town you’ll have to pay the salary of a postmen for going to take the card from your town to the next town, probably only for that item or a very small number of items.
From china millions of packages move by ship. The cost per package is negligible. Most of the cost again comes from when the package is in your city and the postman has to get it to your house.
Also I think you got some things wrong. There use to be some subsidised loophole, where national postal agencies delivered chinese packets for free as they were considered third world postal service. That loophole closed long ago. Now all the cost is paid. From the logistic warehouse to the ship/plane, to your doorstep, all that cost is covered on what you pay.
What they are doing is not ending subsidies, I would be ok with that. What they are doing is putting up tariffs. Putting up an artificial price increase via tax jsut because an item came from outside the country. It doesn’t cover or offset any loigistic cost. It’s just a tariff. They change it not for anything fair, it was just that european dropshippers couldn’t compete with chinese shops, so they lobbied the EU into killing chinese shops so people wanting those items has to get them through the european dropshipper. That’s all. No a single millilitre of oil will be saved on the process. The parcel will do the exact same travel at the exact same cost, but you will pay more, and that money will end up either in the EU Comission hands or in a dropshipper hands.
The orders will not be more aggregated, that’s nonsense. They already aggregated the orders to send them as cheap as possible, as that’s in best interest from all parties. They don’t send near empty containers, every container is already filled to the brim.
We may just may see just a reduction in the number of orders, just because we won’t be able to afford as much because they effectively made us poorer. With the same money we’ll be able to afford less things. Which is just the them of the EU in the later years, make its citizens poorer and poorer via increasing the cost of everything year after year. “You’ll own nothing and be happy”, except I won’t be happy. I feel far from happy with the EU.
Jiral@lemmy.world 2 days ago
“Materially speaking is more expensive to send a letter next town than a packet from something like aliexpress.”
That is wrong. The microdeliveries are sent as letters. So they are literally a letter from next town (just even longer distance) + a consolidated flight freight from the other side of the globe. The last leg alone creates more costs than the entire product plus shipment is purchased for.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
It is more expensive.
As letters to towns are sent by public services which are expensive and work at a loss because they need to guarantee 100% population coverage. And have stricter delivery routes.
Commercial parcel delivery doesn’t work like that. They use cheap delivery companies, that can and will organize deliveries in a more efficient manner, plus they don’t give 100% coverage. If you live in a remote ares these delivery services are not available and it’s up to the customer to go to a pickup post.
Also you don’t even have to receive at home. Pick up post are common, so all deliveries doesn’t need to go to each person home. They are go to the same shop and them people walk there to retrieve products.
Like it or not, it’s cheaper. There’s a thing called economic scaling here, that means that the more products are moved the cheaper it becomes to move it.
It’s also non sensical in the sense that the tax is not made by product. But by category of product. I could order 150€ in the same product and only get 3€ tax. But if I get 150€ in 150 products of different categories I get a 450€ tax. It’s illogical if the objective would be what you think it is.
It’s a logical tax from the explanation I gave. They european union was lobbied by scalpers, local resellers and dropshippers, that would indeed buy tremendous amounts of the same article to resell it more expensive to you.
Making the product also travel more and less efficiency. The product no longe will go in a efficient route from china to my house. Now It will go to chine to some warehouse, sit there some time and them from that warehouse to my house. If anything it would me more polluting.
They EU have failed us again.
Jiral@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Wrong. The micro orders via Ali Express standard shipping to Austria are sent by the Austrian post, the same company sending any other letter.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Then is different by country. In spain they used to be sent by the national post agency, taking advantage of the subsidization of third world countries.
But that aid ended years ago. Now packages from china have to pay full commercial price of delivery.
Since them in spain they moved from the national post agency towards cheap delivery companies, usually with bikers.
Idk if in Austria they are still subsidized or they pay full commercial price to the Austrian post agency. But surely there’s no european legislation that makes them not pay full price.
And once they pay full price, commercial companies tend to be more expensive or straight up not working in small towns compared with big cities where delivery is cheaper.