I feel like we’ve had this discussion before. But to me all religions are nonsense, and singling out Islam seems odd to me.
The Greens aren’t a “pro-islam” party, they’re anti-discrimination, and pro-palestine. Which any person who’s anti-genocide is at least not pro-israel (disclaimer, I don’t like the Greens, but for other reasons).
The greens are a party that believes you can manage, reform and tax capitalism into something acceptable, and believe parliament is where power is and should be. They, like all the bigger parties, elect leaders from within the parliamentary party, and don’t really let regular members vote on policy (something I believe Labor does, but just ignores? I’m not as familiar with their internal party politics).
I’d argue why they’re unappealing, is that they don’t focus enough on the core issue: class struggle. Too many tree Tories in the party. Too many people who think if only we could get enough “good people” into parliament everything will be fixed.
The last election their headline policy was dental into Medicare. Good, sure, but they don’t talk about ablishing Medicare and replacing it with a truly public system, one where out of pocket costs can’t just come back every couple of years. They don’t talk about scrapping the stupid Union Accords Labor brought in decades ago which absolutely knee-capped union power by severely restricting the right to strike.
I just think your fixation on Islam is troubling.
All religions are dumb, in my opinion, but I’ll speak up against discrimination of all kinds.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
You gotta stop calling the religion of a quarter of this world an extremist backwards ideology. You’re not correct in your statement. If Australians detest anything its not having access to toilet paper.
Flattening the wide differences between 2 billion people is farcical. Not to mention you’re insulting hundreds of thousands of your own countrymen, 👏 well done you, who share your Australian values and have Islamic faith.
Try targetting degenerate extremists of any stripe and credence. That would be far more reflective of reality than targetting all and sundry hanging out in a mosque .
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Feel free to talk to them as I have, you have to go deeper than surface level discussions of course, really get in deep, you’ll find they are much closer in beliefs to a muslim family first than the greens but they will vote for the greens if it means getting a muslim member into parliament
Now where did you put family first on your list of votes last time 🤔
svt.se/…/undercover-report-muslim-leaders-urges-w…
I mean, encouraging rape sounds a bit extremist to me? But hey it’s only “one of Sweden’s most respected, and well-frequented, mosques is located at the heart of Stockholm, at Medborgarplatsen”
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61134734
Jeez they REALLY don’t like Islam 😅 I don’t think I’ve seen even 1 koran burned here
When people were asked about negative attitudes towards different faith groups, 21 to 25 per cent of those interviewed said they held negative views about Muslims, but the rate in the self-completion survey was almost double at 40 per cent.
In 2018, asked whether they felt positive, negative or neutral towards Muslims, 23 per cent of those polled said they felt ‘very negative’ or ‘somewhat negative’, increasing to 39 per cent when answering anonymously. Results were similar in 2017.
www.sbs.com.au/news/article/…/3gp53uzkb
This is what you sound like:
Jeez you really think all these people are extremist? You’re crazy man, not every nazi is extremist, only some of them, try connecting with your local nazi, you’ll find you both have a lot in common :)
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Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Lol, 😂 had to go all the way to the otherside of the world in Sweden in a vain attempt to prove the ‘Islam bad mm’kay’ isn’t a farcical position. How many billions of Muslims are between here and there?
You speed-ran to the Nazis, its the acceptance that whole groups of people in a society are degenerate that creates the conditions for genocide… a pretty immoral act the Nazis, among others, are infamous for.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Mate, have you heard some of the shit conservative Christians say? And half our pollies are some sort of Christian, both left and right wing.
Just because you’re a Catholic does not mean you’re a child rapist like Cardinal Pell. And just because you’re a Muslim doesn’t mean you hate all the infidels like the Ayatollah.
Have some perspective. There’s plenty of Muslim lefties out there, and centrists, and corporate ghouls, and bigots. Just like anyone.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Yes, I have been debating religious people since roughly 2003, hence why I’m quick to leave these “debates”, im simply repeating myself for the 1000th time
You’re not wrong ?
I detest them too? Nice own goal there? But your support is appreciated
Correct however go lookup some statistics on what Muslims believe
Yes I call them slippery fish, every religious person has their own version of religion, plenty of “muslims” who drink beer, smoke and don’t lower their gazes before the women
This does not change the fundamental beliefs of Islam are not something I wish to entertain and my support of a total ban of restrictive Islamic clothing for women