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• backalleycoyote@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No. Those are historical pictures of the price to be paid when you spend your life doing this

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  It’s ugly, it’s unsettling, it’s uncomfortable, it’s graphic. But if the subject is “lets comment and upvote how violent we want to be against the system”, while I wholeheartedly endorse that sentiment, that is what you need to be capable of because this is what they are doing with their power. Everyone needs to see what happens to the vulnerable when you use talk while the victimizers use action. Everyone needs to be reminded of what it actually looks like when you chose to fight back with action.

  The internet is full of calls for violence from people who have never actually been in a situation where they inflict a life altering level of violence on another person, much less a life ending one. It’s not Hollywood and it’s not superheroes. Your enemies may have abandoned their humanity but they’re still human, and if/when you fight them, you will have to do things that are gory and unpleasant.

  I don’t doubt that the victims of ICE are nearing the level of suffering we see in the death camp liberation photos. We see atrocities in Gaza on a daily basis. We know who’s behind it, we cheer the idea that their ability to do so will end, we keep psyching ourselves up to accept the reality and fight back. Great, but here’s what it looks like. Accept it or keep looking the other way while hoping someone else takes care of it and your hands are clean. They’re not, the blood of all the victims is as much on yours and mine for not accepting the terms of the brutalizers in this conflict and treating moral objection and righteous condemnation as the solution while they grind others into nothing.

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  • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m not saying that this part of history shouldn’t be discussed or seen. I’m saying that it’s reasonable to give people browsing Lemmy a warning before seeing dead bodies.

    Y’all can continue your debate, but that first photo needs to be behind a spoiler tag before I can clear this report.

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    • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Do what you gotta do, and if that means sanitizing the misery of genocide and the consequences of fascism, on a forum the calls for death and destruction of fascism are a daily occurrence 🤷‍♂️

      How many people are being abused and killed in ICE camps and Gaza everyday? How many more are virtue signaling on social media or a live stream while it goes on? Death and violence are easier to imagine abstractly because most people don’t encounter it every day. But it’s all around, it’s happening, they know it’s happening, they cheer for reprisal but can’t handle seeing the end result?

      People are free to known but not want to see it, they’re free to look away, but fuck me, are we really at a point where the dead body of the guy who invented modern fascism is taboo? The people complaining are either fascists who don’t want to be reminded of what we do to their kind, or the left is utterly fucked because our ranks really are filled with snowflakes and bleeding-hearts who are never going to put up a fight.

      Delete if you must but I’m not changing the post.

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      • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m not here to get in the middle of your conversation, I’m just responding to a report because we have a rule about showing porn, gore, or distressing images without a nsfw or spoiler tag. This includes your comment with the dead bodies.

        I understand your motivation, but the rule exists to give people a chance to consent first.

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