Comment on I got this popup ad on my TV **while watching a DVD**

• Twelve20two@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Getting pihole set up may just be my new year’s resolution.

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• corbin@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Yep, most of them won’t complain if you just never connect them to Wi-Fi during setup.

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  • piecat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    There’s a pretty good chance they’ll get around it- if they aren’t already.

    Samsung TV? You have a Samsung phone? There’s an easy way to jump the air gap.

    Neighbor has a TV connected to the Internet? Send data to that TV and pretend you’re not connected to anything so the user doesn’t catch on.

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    • Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Pretty sure that’s straight up against the law. IANAL tho.

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      • cheviotveneer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Amazon already built it: www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk

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      • piecat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        That’s exactly how air tags work currently.

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    • RunningInRVA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I’d like to see where in the EULA it states your TV and Internet connection are used for hauling your neighbor’s data.

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  • TangledHyphae@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I have never had any smart TV complain (yet) that I have never once connected wifi. I am guessing there would be lawsuits, that a physical device requiring internet and requiring you to connect it just to function, would get sued in a class action of some kind.

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    • redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      You’re going to love this free tv then. It’s free, and people has began receiving this tv since the last 3 months or so. In exchange for receiving this free tv, you’ll have to make some sacrifice:

      • The tv must be connected to internet at all times within 5 days of receiving it. You aren’t allowed to disconnect it (except due to brief internet outages)
      • There is a second screen on the bottom with camera that display ads. You aren’t allowed to obscure the second screen to hide ads.
      • No modification allowed. You can’t disconnect the second screen.
      • You aren’t allowed to block ads, even with pihole.

      Breaking the ToS means your credit card would get charged $1000. Very fun TV.

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      • LukeMedia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        This may not be a popular opinion, but I personally see no issue with this if the terms of service and use are made clear and transparent before you order the device. Would I personally recommend or use the product? Hell no, but people having an informed choice, and choosing to accept these these terms is perfectly fine imo.

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      • thesilverpig@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I read 1984. It just took us a little longer to get there.

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      • corbin@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        It does all those things because you explicitly agree to it before getting the TV. Not the same as paying outright for a TV that somehow needs a constant connection.

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      • TangledHyphae@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        That all looks absolutely horrific, but clearly they have some customers somehow?

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      • QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        This is…dystopian…

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