Seeing what someone else has and taking that as information to them decide what you want is not jealousy. Jealousy is seeing what someone else has and hating them for it. It deserves a bad rap.
You’re talking about ambition, or something else.
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pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks agoI think jealousy gets a bad rap. It tells you what you want, and what you personally or society could work toward.
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
drmoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everyone loves Nietche but no one is actually living Nietche. Sure it’s a useful tool if you stop, analyze this emotion and built from it but how many people are actually capable of this in practice? Instead people just get captured by the emotion and never progress.
I don’t think pop culture will ever view jealousy as a positive emotion until we collectively learn emotions.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You gotta start somewhere.
iglou@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Jealousy and envy are not the same thing, although the nuance is subtle. What you’re talking about is closer to envy. You can be envious of something or someone without the hostility that turns it into jealousy.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I disagree. I believe that you choose for it to be envy or jealousy by your definition.
iglou@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
It’s not my definition. That is the subtle difference between the two words. But, most people use both words for the same thing, and most people only use the word jealousy for both things.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Again, both words are responses to the emotion and a choice.
podian@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
What my friend was conveying is that envy is the want for something–usually that another has–and jealousy is the fear of losing something that one already has.
The interchangeable usage based on a vague understanding is just that (often normatively though they’re probably unaware of it).
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
And what I’m saying is, that’s a choice.