You’re doing the same thing that the asshat in the video does. “Oh, what are you, some kid? That’s not how the law works.”
It’s called an ad hominem fallacy. Regardless of someone’s appearance or stature has nothing to do with their intelligence or the substance of their argument.
You then use a whataboutism fallacy claiming “well, what if x y or z happens.” Again, this distracts from the substance of the points being made and the evidence collected. We cannot control “what ifs.” What if a nearby supermassive black hole emits a quasar that atomizes our entire galaxy?
People have to protect people, as the videos show, corporations will fuck you and weaponize the justice system against you with overwhelming capital and former slave catchers will cover it up.
I don’t think there are many bots on here so I can only assume you’re a capitalist propagandist or just severely ignorant.
skozzii@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
So you didn’t watch any of it then.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
No, they definitely have a point about Ben’s lackadaisical personality at times.
I have watched every video available on the topic including Part 2 and fully support Ben, but I think he creates roadblocks for himself by not taking things seriously. Like when speaking to the Keizer PD and showing them the specific laws being broken by BAM, but while dressed up like a cartoon character. Police didn’t take him seriously and treated him like a joke because that’s how he was portraying himself, so they considered it nothing more than a trespassing call and told him to leave, ignoring all the true facts he was telling them.
Another example is him literally stating into the camera at the end of Pt 2 that he knew he had another warrant issued against him and that’s why he fled the country to Mexico. This is an extremely stupid thing to admit on camera (if true) and can’t possibly lead to anything other than additional harm to him and his friends. It may play well for YouTube but it makes him and his case look terrible in the eyes of the people with the power to fix this.
At this point, he needs to be talking to civil rights attorneys but what good will that do when he has a valid charge out there for fleeing? If he gets arrested in Utah with no bail again, what will the judge say when the prosecutor plays the footage of him admitting to a serious crime? The best way to demonstrate how terrible the other side is, is by being above reproach yourself to show the stark contrast between you two.
TheMcG@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
I heard rumour recently he’s been speaking to legal eagle to find representation.
But yeah dude lives up to his YouTube account name. He’s very reckless and has at least on some level been dishonest in his presentation of the information. For example we know why he was arrested the second time. (Residential picketing) but he keeps saying he doesn’t know. Or the fact he lied about the process server being someone who he just met.
He’s by all accounts ultimately in the right for the stolen Lego but I’ve been shocked at how poorly prepared they have been to deal with cops. Ie why the fuck does he not stop talking to them lol.
Hopefully he manages to get the original owners of the Lego and the store made whole. And holy fuck I want to know what happened to crystals store bird BAM took.