Comment on .ml has got to be the only place on earth where I'd get downvoted for a comment like this
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 hours agoRevolution is the only way left-wing governments have historically been solidified. Bolivia tried the democratic process, and this failed, so now a potential revolution is brewing as clashes between the far-right and the primarily indigenous socialists are erupting. Allende tried the democratic process in Chile, and was coup’d for it.
CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
Who cares? I’m not talking about how they get solidified. I’m talking about what they do when they have power. If someone supports violent left wing regimes, then they are a Tankie. If you don’t think that the regimes are violent beyond their revolutions, then that wouldn’t imply one way or another whether you are a Tankie.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
So we are back to square one: since all leftist states are the result of revolution, it is definitionally correct that “tankies” are those who support socialist states. All states are tools by which the ruling classes retain their dominance, in socialism this is the working class. Therefore, all states are inherently violent, and trying to label some as uniquely violent misses the entire point of the state, a monopoly on violence.
CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
No. I explicitly rejected that interpretation in the very comment you are responding to. Can you read?
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
Yes, of course I can read. You rejected my interpretation, and I very clearly explained how your rejection is baseless. What is a “non-violent leftist regime?”