Revolution is the only way left-wing governments have historically been solidified. Bolivia tried the democratic process, and this failed, so now a potential revolution is brewing as clashes between the far-right and the primarily indigenous socialists are erupting. Allende tried the democratic process in Chile, and was coup’d for it.
Comment on .ml has got to be the only place on earth where I'd get downvoted for a comment like this
CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 9 hours agoNo one said anything about revolution.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
Who cares? I’m not talking about how they get solidified. I’m talking about what they do when they have power. If someone supports violent left wing regimes, then they are a Tankie. If you don’t think that the regimes are violent beyond their revolutions, then that wouldn’t imply one way or another whether you are a Tankie.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
So we are back to square one: since all leftist states are the result of revolution, it is definitionally correct that “tankies” are those who support socialist states. All states are tools by which the ruling classes retain their dominance, in socialism this is the working class. Therefore, all states are inherently violent, and trying to label some as uniquely violent misses the entire point of the state, a monopoly on violence.
CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
No. I explicitly rejected that interpretation in the very comment you are responding to. Can you read?
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
Yes we did dumbass, we literally never shut up about it
CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
It’s not relevant to this thread. Also, shut your mouth.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
It is relevant, you’re just mad because you’re losing, make me lol