Yes it’s less dangerous (not dangerless obviously), in Europe the swat teams tend to be better trained and way less trigger happy than in USA. Had they busted in there they likely would not have shot an elderly woman found inside, whereas in USA that’s more likely to happen. They don’t just go in and start shooting, otherwise we would have “random kids and women accidentally murdered in a police bust” headlines all the time as well
Oh this absolutely happens in europe too, just not with such a needlessly large amount of cops. Makes it no less dangerous though.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
cynar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
America has “police by intimidation” as its default response. Most of Europe seems to have “police by consent” as the default.
It leads to a different mentality. They might still roll out the whole cavalry, but it will more likely be led by a polite knock at the door, and an initial attempt to de-escalate.
anguo@piefed.ca 23 hours ago
You’re being a little too optimistic, there. It might not be the same toxic culture, but ACAB.
Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
I have been stopped while doing something illegal that was a minor infraction, but still caught red handed, could have easily been fined, but was let go with a verbal promise to do better and the whole interaction was very civil. Also a few months ago the police recovered stolen items and managed to detective their way to me to return them as well as caught the bastards that did it. The whole process was honestly impressive and the cops I dealt with were just awesome. My interaction with police throughout my life has been at worst neutral but mostly positive. In Europe ACAB is bullshit as far as I’m concerned and anyone who uses it here is memeing after the Americans where it sounds like it’s 100% applicable.
anguo@piefed.ca 15 hours ago
‘Europe’ is a generalisation though. I’m sure this might ring true in Scandinavia and some other northern countries, but might also be a completely different story in Greece, Italy, etc.
I mean, yes, saying ACAB is a blatant generalisation too.
cynar@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
The UK force has its problems, but it functions fairly well. It also has a lot of people in it who honestly want to do a good job.
The problem is the rules and mandates coming down from the government. (And the political upper management level of the police)
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 16 hours ago
They seem to put an inordinate amount of effort into suppressing free speech, prioritizing it over going after actual fucking crimes.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
They mentioned in the video more cops came because they wanted to meet the gaming grandma, and they cleared the scene pretty quick.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I don’t think a grandma would have to raise money for cancer treatment in the EU…
Foni@piefed.zip 1 day ago
Do elderly women have to stream videos to pay for cancer treatments? My father has cancer, and all his bills this year add up to €0. Well, sometimes I leave the car in a paid parking lot; in the whole year it’s probably been around €20.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Oh no i meant the swatting part my bad.
Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I’ve never seen any european police respond to anonymous tips with 20 police cars, SWAT equivalent units or even guns drawn for that matter.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Hence this part of my comment… like … learn to read boiii
msage@programming.dev 1 day ago
If the child didn’t need money for treatment, granny wouldn’t be on twitch.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
sure, but if she streamed for her enjoyment and got swatted, it wouldn’t make a difference