Comment on .ml has got to be the only place on earth where I'd get downvoted for a comment like this

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  One of these things is absolutely not like the other two, supporting the Khmer Rouge is more likely to get you banned than not. Saying the USSR and PRC are bad is just generic anti-communism.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Talk to people who actually lived in those countries and the cultural revolution.

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Take your own advice

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      • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I have. Grow up.

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    • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The majority of people that lived in Eastern European socialist countries regret their fall, and over 90% of Chinese people support their government. Maybe you should talk to them.

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    • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I am in China right now, I will be back in Vietnam in a week, I talk to people all the time, is there something specific you want the opinion of the next rando I talk to on?

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• Tolc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Soviet union and mao were good

  Khmer rogue was backed by CIA

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  • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Deng: Mao was at least 20% bad. I don’t think I need to list Deng’s mistakes. Or mention Hu Jintao.

    The USSR beat the Nazis, turned hundreds of millions of farmers living under feudalism into a space-based civilization with living standards comparable to the west within a single lifetime, and materially supported positive social movements all over the planet, but if you want to talk about any particular period, I can talk about things that in hindsight weren’t great, even with proper context.

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• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah no if you’re calling the Khmer Rouge, whom authoritarian communist, Ho Chi Minh, kicked out and the US armed and supported in exile until the 90s, an example of leftists, no shit you’ll get banned, clearly you’re not there to have an actual discussion.

  As far as the USSR and Mao, communist circles tend to have much deeper understanding and criticisms of these things because we actually engage with what actually happened, why it happened, it’s effects, how it’s perceived by modern historians, etc, as opposed to liberals who don’t actually care beyond its utility in jerking off while grunting “communism bad”.

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  • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Stfu. USSR and China weren’t communist

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    • RiverRock@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Thus by a continually shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemy is both communist and not communist

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Lol cope

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      • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Leave me alone bro

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• EuroNutellaMan@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I find it kinda funny how, according to replies to this, their problem with supporting the Khmer Rouge is that it was US-backed.

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  • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Nah, the problem was that it wasn’t even close to socialism, and instead was a sort of reactionary agrarian system with brutal repressions. It was stopped by the communists. Pointing out that the US Empire backed it is to prove the point that it absolutely wasn’t leftist, and that “tankies” don’t support it.

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    • EuroNutellaMan@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sorry I ain’t taking socialism lessons from the same guy who thinks ruzzia is not an imperialist state, among other questionable takes.

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      • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Imperialism is a stage of monopoly capitalism where domestic markets are saturated, and thus you must go outward. In this process, bank capital merges with industrial capital to form finance capital, and this dominates the economy, forcing export of capital rather than commodity. The world itself has already been entirely split up amongst the imperialist powers by World War I, as this was the primary cause behind it.

        The Soviet Union was anti-imperialist and anti-colonial, and the dissolution of socialism in the USSR was devastating for all countries involved. As such, even if we were to assume Russia would be imperialist if it could, it inherited no colonies, only a broken economy, and the west had already split the world amongst themselves.

        Russia is closer to something like Brazil than an imperialist country like the US, France, Germany, the UK, etc.

        Not sure what you’re really getting at, my takes are very standard among Marxist-Leninists. What makes you think I’d be unqualified to speak on socialism?

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      • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Lol fair, stay stupid

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