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Comment on .ml has got to be the only place on earth where I'd get downvoted for a comment like this

Also, I do not think temporarily holding a percent of an ethnicity in an internment camp is enough to call something a genocide.

Do you really want to defend holding any percentage of people in an internment camp based on their ethnicity? And this applies to USA too. Holding anyone on an internment camp is bad enough, but because of ethnicity?! That’s not only racism, that’s fast track to genocide if it’s not already happening

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TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Do you really want to defend holding any percentage of people in an internment camp based on their ethnicity?

Did I say I was defending that… Or did I just say it wasn’t considered a genocide? Pretty sure I started the argument by saying i didn’t agree with all CCP policy, and that the treatment of the Uyghur people would be systemic ethnic prejudice, which is self evidently bad.

Again, my point isn’t to nullify all criticism, just to point out that there seems to be a double standard when people speak about the same crimes carried by both democratic and socialist governments.

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- Tonava@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  Or did I just say it wasn’t considered a genocide?
  
  If part of (be it sixth or less) a cultural minority is put into internment camps, such a big portion of one ethnicity to be criminals in any common means is so unlikely it’s clearly a state approved genocide. You denying it to be one is intentionally downplaying to make the issue seem less important and direct the discussion towards something else. I do not care what is the government structure or whatever it prefers to be called if they’re putting minorities into camps. There’s nothing to be defended in that, be it USA, China, or whoever.
  
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  - TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    If part of (be it sixth or less) a cultural minority is put into internment camps, such a big portion of one ethnicity to be criminals in any common means is so unlikely it’s clearly a state approved genocide.
    
    By what definition? Labeling all discrimination towards ethnic minorities as bad is something I would readily agree with. However, labeling all types of discrimination as genocide diminishes the definition of genocide and is lessens the actual genocides that have actually occured.
    
    Definitionally genocide requires the intent to partially or fully physically destroy a cultural, ethnic, racial, or religious group. According to the UN internment camps are not inherently genocidal, but can often be a precursor to genocidal actions.
    
    You denying it to be one is intentionally downplaying to make the issue seem less important and direct the discussion towards something else.
    
    Or, I’m just trying to be accurate. I’m also pointing out that there are inconsistencies in the way people lable genocide when it comes to geopolitics.
    
    As far as redirections… I don’t really know what you are implying, I haven’t changed my position on the subject, or attempted to bring in another topic the entire argument.
    
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