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Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

I’m not even an anarchist, I just wanted a somewhat populated instance with less down time than world. The political ideation of the more hardcore members of db0 certainly seems like a pipedream more than a realistic plan for government (or lack thereof). But hey, I’ll take hate for consolidated political power over bootlicking any day.

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sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
anarcho-pragmatism, lol

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fizzle@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I agree, but thats not really what im getting at.

Theres this Fediverse Anarchist Flotilla which is supposed to be like an alliance of instances with shared rules and commitments and whatever. It just seems completely unnecessary to me.

Its like… 5 people catch up every week to drink beer and watch a movie. Its great and everyone enjoys it. Then one guy says you need a chairperson, and rules, and a secret handshake, and a versioning system for the rules, and a documented arrangement with some other guys who do the same thing at someone else’s house, and your own crypto coin for donations, and all the things.

Its all unnecessary.

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- sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Its an elective (voluntary) federation.
  
  Within a framework designed for and around federations.
  
  So analagously, consider maybe a set of countries that agree to a mutual trade agreement.
  
  Instead of a multiplicity of bilateral negotiations, you have a collective group mechanism for dispute settlement, or maybe steering and implementing a new or revised regional strategy.
  
  Or, to drop the analogy down to the more mundane and practical:
  
  Instead of you and 5 of your friends all texting each other seperately, to figure out the carpool schedule for next week… you all just have a group chat for this.
  
  This can seem unnecessary when scales are small.
  
  Then maybe you happen to scale up, and then you find that the old way of doing things is actually more chaotic and confusing, and has a whole bunch of serious flaws.
  
  Then you look back at the goobers that did all that seemingly at the time pointless extra work, and call that foresight.
  
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  - fizzle@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I guess the metaphors break down in considering the mass of “governance structure” in the context of the stuff that requires governance.
    
    IMO, the FAF is a top heavy absurdity. A layer of governance that serves no purpose.
    
    Whether or not it’s foresight remains to be seen.
    
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