People that lead miserable empty lives can never grasp that something is just a joke
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gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 week ago
3 … 2 … 1 … before it causes a shitstorm about sexualizing women
Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 week ago
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 week ago
ehh, i tend to think that there’s meaning in a lot of jokes
Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Good point. I recently went to see a stand up comedian. And while the rest of the audience was laughing I remained silent. I was focused on what exactly is the meaning of what the comedian was saying.
Drusas@fedia.io 1 week ago
*objectifying
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Honestly I find Lemmy to be generally sex positive as long as you don’t objectify.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 week ago
hmm yeah i’ve a bit of trouble with the whole concept of “objectifying” because what does that really mean?
in my view, people are always both objects and subjects at the same time. it’s like people have a body and a mind at the same time, because only having 1 of the 2 would be pointless.
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
I think you may be thinking about it too literally, what is often inferred by objectifying someone is sexualizing from the point they stop being the person. That their only role in society becomes as a sex object, think of how women are often treated during the 50s and 60s as little more than an object of reproduction and sexualization.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 week ago
huh i think that’s a good explanation actually. i’ve had similar thoughts myself but didn’t have the words for it so i called it “sexism II” (which you call “sex positivity”) to differentiate it from “sexism I” (sexism). It might be silly but i didn’t know how else to express myself.
I also think that it’s noteworthy that the “reduction to a function” is something that happened to basically everyone in 1960, not just to women. Men were just as much “reduced” to being the “breadwinner”, which is a function as well. I think that’s not talked about as much because men don’t tend to talk about “being reduced to a function” as much. Some kind of “society forbids to complain” or sth.